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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:00 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 1:52 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: The father doesn't have to do this.
But you just said you were okay with it if he did it, which essentially makes your judgments on morality entirely compromised, if you think that forced child marriages are okay as long as the father is alright with it.
And about slavery, you were kinda evasive there: are you okay with slavery as it's described in the bible? And by that I mean this:
Quote: However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
And I mean this:
Quote: When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Before you go the lazy apologetics route and try to tell us that all those verses don't exist and that the bible only says this:
Quote: If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years.
Because there's a rest of that paragraph too, and also I don't want to hear any crap about how that's Old Testament and doesn't apply, because the New Testament says this:
Quote: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
So, now we don't have to waste time dealing with the usual lies, let's get to the truth: slavery as described in the bible, where you can own people from other nations, buy people as property, beat them, pass them on to your children, and own children yourself: is it okay with you?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:03 pm
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I am in no position to question God, why are you all trying to get me to go off topic, is it because you cant find an argument in what i said about gays.
(October 13, 2014 at 2:00 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I wish I could put you on ignore, C4. You make me sick.
Why would you do that? Actually do what you will.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:04 pm
No, it's because we find it hard to believe that you're honestly this morally bankrupt.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:05 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:03 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I am in no position to question God, why are you all trying to get me to go off topic, is it because you cant find an argument in what i said about gays.
(October 13, 2014 at 2:00 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: I wish I could put you on ignore, C4. You make me sick.
Why would you do that? Actually do what you will.
Because you make me feel ill. And I can't put you on ignore because I'm a mod and I'm not allowed to have anyone on ignore. If I were a regular member, I'd avoid you completely. I don't want your disgusting world view anywhere near.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:06 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:04 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: No, it's because we find it hard to believe that you're honestly this morally bankrupt.
Well you have never met me outside this website so you will never know.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:06 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:06 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:04 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: No, it's because we find it hard to believe that you're honestly this morally bankrupt.
Well you have never met me outside this website so you will never know.
If you're telling the truth about what you believe, we already know.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:07 pm
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(October 13, 2014 at 2:05 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:03 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I am in no position to question God, why are you all trying to get me to go off topic, is it because you cant find an argument in what i said about gays.
Why would you do that? Actually do what you will.
Because you make me feel ill. And I can't put you on ignore because I'm a mod and I'm not allowed to have anyone on ignore. If I were a regular member, I'd avoid you completely. I don't want your disgusting world view anywhere near. You don't have to read my posts, you can avoid them if you want to.
(October 13, 2014 at 2:06 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:06 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Well you have never met me outside this website so you will never know.
If you're telling the truth about what you believe, we already know.
Yea well you have never heard me discuss any thing else to do with life.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 1:52 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 1:46 pm)Chas Wrote: Well, we're back to you being a moral midget.
Apparently, you wouldn't recognize a human rights violation if it stood up and whacked you upside the head.
The father doesn't have to do this. Why do you want to know if I have daughters.
No, you blithering idiot, the father has no fucking right to do this.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm
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(October 13, 2014 at 2:03 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I am in no position to question God, why are you all trying to get me to go off topic, is it because you cant find an argument in what i said about gays.
Au contraire, Carm: I think that your complete inability to make moral choices without cowering for approval from a celestial bigoted, racist, murdering savage is the best possible argument in response to what you said about the gays.
Edit: Incidentally, I just went back to the early pages and re-read what you said about gays: "Bible doesn't like 'em"? Gee, what a stunningly cogent and irrefutable argument to make to a room full of atheists.
Edit number two: Oh hey Carm, where are you from? Because in the bible, Jesus states clearly that he's only hanging around to save the Israelites, and that every other race is like dogs, so unless you're of the right race it might not be worth dealing with this religion anymore.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:11 pm
^^^^^THIS.
I was writing something similar but you put it much better than I would have. I think I am just too angry.
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