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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:18 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:16 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:15 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Why not? The Bible explictly says the punishment for two men havign sex is death.
Sorry misread question I don' t think two men should lie together.
And the Bible says that if they do, they should be killed. Do you agree?
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October 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:11 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:09 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Au contraire, Carm: I think that your complete inability to make moral choices without cowering for approval from a celestial bigoted, racist, murdering savage is the best possible argument in response to what you said about the gays.
So what you what me to hate gays, okay
No, I want you to relinquish your unthinking death grip on that ancient catalogue of atrocities, and to quit pretending that it's the source of your moral judgments.
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October 13, 2014 at 2:27 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:11 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: So what you what me to hate gays, okay
No, I want you to relinquish your unthinking death grip on that ancient catalogue of atrocities, and to quit pretending that it's the source of your moral judgments.
Unfortunately, it sounds like he isn't pretending.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:28 pm
Still waiting on the answer Carm. If two men have sex, is it moral to put them to death, as the Bible says you should?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 2:31 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:27 pm)Chas Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm)Esquilax Wrote: No, I want you to relinquish your unthinking death grip on that ancient catalogue of atrocities, and to quit pretending that it's the source of your moral judgments.
Unfortunately, it sounds like he isn't pretending.
I think he incorrectly attributes his morality to the bible, while simultaneously not acting as if it were. Because, let's face it, if he actually did what the bible proclaimed to be moral, he would be in jail, or dead.
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 3:05 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 2:28 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Still waiting on the answer Carm. If two men have sex, is it moral to put them to death, as the Bible says you should?
I am a sinner and therefore I am in no position to put people to death.
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October 13, 2014 at 3:06 pm
Answer the fucking question Carm. Two men have sex. They are put to death as per the rules of the Bible. Is that moral?
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October 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm
Is it the right thing to do for a nonsinner?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 3:05 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: (October 13, 2014 at 2:28 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Still waiting on the answer Carm. If two men have sex, is it moral to put them to death, as the Bible says you should?
I am a sinner and therefore I am in no position to put people to death.
The bible says you have to. It's a commandment, that you stone gay people to death. I'm bisexual, I've slept with a guy before, and your bible commands that you kill me. If I handed you a stone, would you murder me with it, as your bible commands?
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RE: Gay rights within the template of religion proves flaws in "religion"
October 13, 2014 at 3:10 pm
(October 13, 2014 at 3:06 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Answer the fucking question Carm. Two men have sex. They are put to death as per the rules of the Bible. Is that moral?
Jesus died on the cross to die for are sins therefore a gay person can be saved and not punished in hell.
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