To explain knowledge of God

[Tonus]

Drich explained the biblical sequence of seeking/finding more than once.
How is it that you guys don't see it?

Because it's self-serving nonsense. Christ did not "outline" anything in Luke 11, he simply said "do it" and gave no detail. It is as open to interpretation as any other part of the Bible, and just as open to self-serving rationalizations. Or have you missed the numerous ways in which Drich has explained that (1)it's pretty easy to A/S/K and (2)no one else seems to be able to do it correctly? And as Simon pointed out, the Bible itself has examples of people who didn't ASK (Paul). And it has examples of people who merely took the first step (Cornelius) and got a divine response.

There is no blueprint. There is a vague and useless platitude that can be interpreted in any way to both validate a person's experience or dismiss it just as easily, as Drich has done time and again. How is it that you guys don't see it?

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What Are you talking about? Saul of Tarsus did everything he knew to do to seek out and serve God.

Paul was participating in the persecution and murder of early Christians. For A/S/K to work in his case, the only thing required for it to work is sincerity, even in the face of horrible acts being committed by the person in question. This is a perfect example of a self-serving explanation: if anyone of us points out that we were sincere in our efforts to serve god, you will find some way to dismiss them, even though Paul gets a pass for "doing everything he knew to seek out and serve god" when doing so included jailing and killing true believers.

[FatAndFaithless]

Why would god create us as slaves that need to seek him? Is he really that egotistic that he needs to be reassured by willing supplicants of how great he is?

[professor]

FAF,
We were not created as slaves, or ancient forefathers chose that when they gave Satan the dominion
which they themselves possessed.

God's intention is a family, He said in the OT that He is the husband of Israel.
In the NT, Lord Jesus is the husband of the (true) Church.
He is coming for a Bride.
NOT sexual but relational.
THAT is the destiny of those who choose Him.
To be joined to God in fullness of joy forever.

[The Grand Nudger]

Oh great, just what we all need. A sexless marriage. Can't imagine how that might end poorly.

[Tonus]

Oh great, just what we all need. A sexless marriage. Can't imagine how that might end poorly.

Oh, I wouldn't say that. Looks to me like he fucked them plenty of times.

[Fidel_Castronaut]

Oh great, just what we all need. A sexless marriage. Can't imagine how that might end poorly.

If I wanted tips on how to be utterly and completely insane, the prof would be the first person to go to.

Anything else, I think guessing would get better results.

[Thumpalumpacus]

FAF,
We were not created as slaves, or ancient forefathers chose that when they gave Satan the dominion
which they themselves possessed.

God's intention is a family, He said in the OT that He is the husband of Israel.
In the NT, Lord Jesus is the husband of the (true) Church.
He is coming for a Bride.
NOT sexual but relational.
THAT is the destiny of those who choose Him.
To be joined to God in fullness of joy forever.

High-falutin' words glossing over the fact that complete obeisance is not a part of a healthy family relationship.

[pocaracas]

We were not created as slaves, or ancient forefathers chose that when they gave Satan the dominion
which they themselves possessed.

Who's this "Satan" character, now?
Where did you hear about it?

Do note that the existence of any god has not been established... much less any of god's minions.

[Anomalocaris]

We were not created as slaves, or ancient forefathers chose that when they gave Satan the dominion
which they themselves possessed.

Who's this "Satan" character, now?
Where did you hear about it?

Do note that the existence of any god has not been established... much less any of god's minions.

Judging from the fact his notion of the world seems to consist 100% of conspiracy theories, I don't think the "professor" is mentally capable of detecting the existence of, much less grasp, the notions of "verifiability" and "foundation in reality".

[professor]

You guys never fail to provide me with mirth.
Learning about this Satan character comes from a myriad of sources including the Bible.
Do you know nothing about the civilizations that went before the veneration of Darwin?

I suppose the question would be how many cultures DIDN'T have evil spirits?

The naturalist, unable (unwilling?) to grasp anything he can't fit in a test tube, just rejects everything which went before his superior "Enlightenment".
when you see Beyonce , and a number of other celebrities making the illuminati triangle, winking at you or holding their hands in the triple 6 mode, or the devil horned hand sign (done also by many world leaders, beside entertainers)- these people are signaling their allegiance to something unseen.
The symbol of which is on the U.S. dollar.

As for rejecting your destiny because you think it is demeaning, I think the opposite way- God is inviting goofy me into union with Himself.
See, the way UP is to go lower, the way DOWN is to elevate yourself.
Satan sought to elevate himself over God and was cast down.
Jesus lowered Himself to become a man and will forever be elevated.