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The monopoly manual and holy books.
#11
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
Most current day US Christian franchise owners are probably pretty happy about all the variations in scripture as it allows for brand differentiation. Congregations that are inclined to tithe faithfully aren't going to be chastised too much for their peccadilloes, management needs the cash flow and there is no shortage of other denominations (or atheists) that are 'doing it wrong' (or not at all) to inspire whatever fire and brimstony sermonation that is needed.
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#12
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 1:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: Have you actually looked at Monopoly rules lately?
http://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/00009.pdf
There are numerous significant contradictions between the Speed Die Rules and the Classic Rules.
Except that they aren't contradictions. - because they refer to different games. Are there different ways to game christianity that are all equally valid? Can I play speed die christianity or classic christianity and either way...pass go?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#13
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
Nope, of the 40,000 christian schisms, at the VERY most, only one of them is the One True Faith. Everyone else is DAMNED for blasphemy, apostasy, and heresy.
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#14
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 6:13 pm)vorlon13 Wrote: Nope, of the 40,000 christian schisms, at the VERY most, only one of them is the One True Faith. Everyone else is DAMNED for blasphemy, apostasy, and heresy.

To be far that view is a little simplistic. I think that with you analyze the different denominations almost taxonomically. The reason for this is because some of the differences are massive, like for example the difference between a pentecostal and a eastern orthodox christian. Stick the two in a debate the only thing they will agree on is that jesus was a god figure. On the other hand take the northern baptists and atlantic baptist convention. They believe pretty much the same things with some small exceptions lately. The only real difference is that the Atlantic convention uses a gass roots democratic style of local self governance.
So if we think of religions like the tree of life then abrahamic religions would be one class (like mammals are) and each ending denomination would be its own seperate species.

(November 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(November 17, 2014 at 1:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: Have you actually looked at Monopoly rules lately?
http://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/00009.pdf
There are numerous significant contradictions between the Speed Die Rules and the Classic Rules.
Except that they aren't contradictions. - because they refer to different games. Are there different ways to game christianity that are all equally valid? Can I play speed die christianity or classic christianity and either way...pass go?

Yeah but they all have different bibles and apocrypha anyway, so why wouldnt it be valid to think of them as different games/religions.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#15
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 8:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Yeah but they all have different bibles and apocrypha anyway, so why wouldnt it be valid to think of them as different games/religions.
I do think of them as different religions, lol - I just don't push that viewpoint much. There's a definite point in american history where the group re-branded itself as perceptual monolith. They didn't actually work out the differences between their religions, they just realized that they would need solidarity (or at least to be perceived as having such) to survive the changing social environment.

If I could remember the title...........I'll get back to you on this, maybe..lol
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#16
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
It may not have to do with clarity but dealing with the subject. In case of a monopoly book, it's something trivial...it's not complicated. But living life is complicated, and people would want to interpret certain words differently regardless of their religion to suit their desires in how they want to live and take ideological stances.

So I feel this is an invalid comparison.
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#17
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 8:44 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(November 17, 2014 at 8:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: Yeah but they all have different bibles and apocrypha anyway, so why wouldnt it be valid to think of them as different games/religions.
I do think of them as different religions, lol - I just don't push that viewpoint much. There's a definite point in american history where the group re-branded itself as perceptual monolith. They didn't actually work out the differences between their religions, they just realized that they would need solidarity (or at least to be perceived as having such) to survive the changing social environment.

If I could remember the title...........I'll get back to you on this, maybe..lol

The second great waking? Or maybe that moment where they heard Robert Ingersoll and quietly thought 'Oh. FUCK!"

(November 17, 2014 at 8:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It may not have to do with clarity but dealing with the subject. In case of a monopoly book, it's something trivial...it's not complicated. But living life is complicated, and people would want to twist certain words regardless of their religion to suit their desires in how they want to live and take ideological stances.

So I feel this is an invalid comparison.

Okay, then how come the teaching of epicurius are also much less contradictory and open to intrepretation when he was dealing with a similiar topic with a even more nuanced mindset? Also given that all we know of his works are either from critics or compilations done by authors long after he died.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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#18
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 8:48 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: It may not have to do with clarity but dealing with the subject. In case of a monopoly book, it's something trivial...it's not complicated.
Neither are "holy books"

Quote:But living life is complicated, and people would want to interpret certain words differently regardless of their religion to suit their desires in how they want to live and take ideological stances.
Many want to win at monopoly, they sometimes "interpret" the rules in their favor.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#19
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 8:40 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: To be far that view is a little simplistic. I think that with you analyze the different denominations almost taxonomically. The reason for this is because some of the differences are massive, like for example the difference between a pentecostal and a eastern orthodox christian. Stick the two in a debate the only thing they will agree on is that jesus was a god figure. On the other hand take the northern baptists and atlantic baptist convention. They believe pretty much the same things with some small exceptions lately. The only real difference is that the Atlantic convention uses a gass roots democratic style of local self governance.
So if we think of religions like the tree of life then abrahamic religions would be one class (like mammals are) and each ending denomination would be its own seperate species.


Seems like making the Christers in the 39,999 schisms that are not The One True Faith paranoid, unsure, and doubtful would trump your point about the analysis being simple.

Wink Shades
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#20
RE: The monopoly manual and holy books.
(November 17, 2014 at 4:01 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(November 17, 2014 at 1:43 pm)alpha male Wrote: Have you actually looked at Monopoly rules lately?
http://www.hasbro.com/common/instruct/00009.pdf
There are numerous significant contradictions between the Speed Die Rules and the Classic Rules.
Except that they aren't contradictions. - because they refer to different games. Are there different ways to game christianity that are all equally valid? Can I play speed die christianity or classic christianity and either way...pass go?
Sure. The different versions of Monopoly have core rules that they all agree on. Note that there are also common home conventions in Monopoly. Many people ignore the auction rule or add a feature to free parking, for example. Still, there are common core rules.

Likewise in Christianity, there are common core rules. One common way to identify them is by the major creeds. Outside the points covered in the creeds, people have freedom to change things up.
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