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RE: Atheists who become Christians
December 27, 2014 at 10:10 am
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Of course I use logic. I try to use nothing else when I'm finding the truth of things. But I don't see any logic in your argument.
You assume that something exists, and then you check if it contradicts reality. If it doesn't, then it exists.
Is that your method? I can't see anything else going on.
I didn't become an atheist for any reason, I've been an atheist my whole life. For one simple reason, no theistic claims have ever met their burden of proof. Or even lifted the burden a millimetre off the ground.
For example, how do I tell which of the thousands of demominations of christianty is the right one? Yours is, I take it? And how do I tell whether God is Yahweh or Allah? Muslims will argue as strongly as you that you are totally wrong.
If we don't have a method to determine what is true and what is made up, we get situations like this.
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RE: Atheists who become Christians
December 27, 2014 at 10:10 am
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@ abaris
God is a logical proposition that, because there can be no 'knowledge' of it as such, you are completely free to accept or reject. I don't think it's possible not to consider associated problems, no matter what you choose.
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RE: Atheists who become Christians
December 27, 2014 at 10:22 am
@ Rob
I don't assume it exists. First I discover information, then I assess it. Then I make my choice. When I act upon that choice, I become a Christian.
The logical problem before you is a bare presentation of the God concept in isolation.
I think your burden of proof is non applicable. It's not even the same subject and I can't see how I can even consider it.
My own belief reflects my history. You assume incorrectly that I dismiss other expressions of faith, where I do not. I accept atheism as an expression of exploration too. I don't feel knowledgeable enough to judge who has the best understanding. All I can do is try to do what's right to me.
I've said that logic works on this problem. Can you show me how my logic is wrong? If not, on what grounds are you dismissing it?
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RE: Atheists who become Christians
December 27, 2014 at 10:26 am
I don't think we can get any further, I've explained it as best I can. As far as I can see, you're not using logic at all, you're making decisions based on your emotions.