Advice for dating a Christian

[The Grand Nudger]

Do you really think it is ok to lie to a girl to get sex?

.................................yes?

Some extremists might even call it rape.

"You're the prettiest girl in here tonight, and I haven't kissed a girl since I left for the I.S.S."

RAPIST!

[paulpablo]

don't talk about the stuff they believe in that you don't believe in.

I've done the same when I dated muslims, christians a hindu, a girl who believed in mermaids, and so on.
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I'm not going to miss out on loads of nice girls and lots of good sex ..

Do you really think it is ok to lie to a girl to get sex?
Even if it is only the lie of omission, If you know you aren't the right guy for her then you are committing a type of fraud upon her. Some extremists might even call it rape.

If lying by omission is rape then I think the world must consist mainly of rapists but anyway.
Well the first question is a whole different thing altogether, I don't think it's right to lie to get sex but I do it.
Although I've never been able to bring myself to lie to a girl about my financial or living conditions (which aren't exactly ideal but aren't too bad either) I also won't pretend to like things I don't like, or go out of my way to be in social situations I don't want to be in like nightclubs or go watch bands I don't like. I pretty much refuse to even lie about my thoughts and ambitions to an extent aswell.
The only lie I ever do tell is how many other girls I'm sleeping with. And no it's not right and yes it is fraudulent and wrong in a moral sense. There's a few reasons why I do this, mostly selfish reasons but some reasons not so selfish, but that's a topic for another thread maybe someday.

I've never lied about religion though even by omission, I tell whoever talks to me about it that I'm very skeptical of everything.

A lot of the religious girls I was with also treated religion more like a football club they were supporting rather than any serious belief.
The muslim girl who was my girlfriend literally said to me we can just pretend to be Muslims and wear all the gear then carry on having crazy kinky sex behind closed doors.
I don't even know what hindus do or don't do so I don't even know if the hindu girl was doing anything wrong by her own religious standards, the only time she ever spoke about it was when she said she thought Muslims thought they were so much better than them.
In fact if I look back I think it was meeting up with a christian girl for sex that brought me to this website.
I was sat in a pub with her before we went back to hers, and we were talking about evolution, and I said I didn't believe in evolution because I don't see how an eye could have evolved, she agreed with me and everyone was happy.
Although when I was talking about my thoughts of the human eye and evolution I was thinking more along the lines of, it seems impossible to me as to how an eye could have evolved so I'll probably look into it online when I have the chance (which lead me to religious forums which I mainly got banned from, which lead me to here)
Whereas she was thinking about it more in terms of Christianity is right so fuck you evolution.
I didn't stop seeing her because of her Christianity though, it was just because she told me her weight problem was a genetic problem but I then we we woke up together she actually had chocolate for breakfast.

[Creed of Heresy]

Just tell her you're an atheist. If you can get over her being a Christian, then she oughta be able to get over you being an atheist.

And if she can't, then you know ahead of time that she wasn't worth the effort.

Problem solved.

[bennyboy]

I wouldn't tell her you're an atheist. Just tell her you don't really think much about religious stuff, and you don't want to be the member of a church because you find "other" religious people annoying.

It's a funny thing. To X-tians "I'm not really religious, and I don't really want to be" is not the same as "I'm an atheist." Sometimes just picking the right words will help your cause a lot.

[Rampant.A.I.]

Women are a different breed. It took years to persuade my girl that my opinion of the beliefs she was raised with was separate and distinct from my opinion of her, or her intellect.

The less you label yourself, the better off you will be. Mine thought she was a YEC, because she was told she was, before she and reason took over, and she'd "sinned" a couple times.

Religion doesn't have to be a wedge. The beliefs most people profess have little to nothing to do with what they actually believe when they aren't reciting what they've been told.

Tell her you're agnostic, because you are. You can't "know" something in the absence of data. Ask her to tell you what she believes. Sit down, have a cup of coffee, respectfully agree to disagree, and don't be afraid to challenge her: Just don't insult her, mock her, or her beliefs right out of the gate.

Remember, this is someone you're hoping to spend the next 50+ years with: Find out now if you can discuss difficult topics without it being a deal-breaker.

[Brakeman]

I posed the question as more of a curiosity of course, certainly not an accusation. I am definitely guilty of pretension to get sex myself and in my old age I am ashamed of it, but is it really different than sneaking into a girl's bedroom and posing as her lover?

Should guys' opening lines at a bar contain an unintelligible legal disclaimer like one hears at the beginning of used car commercials?