2016 Elections

[CapnAwesome]

Fuck Hillary.

I doubt anyone inheriting half of his genes even from Hillary could be as dumb as that moron.

At least he's not a war criminal or married to one. Hillary was secretary of state while we committed war crimes abroad that she supported. Her husband's embargo in Iraq killed somewhere around half a million people in what can only be considered a war crime. Hillary is the worst candidate on either side of the ballot. I hope the democrats find someone else or that they make good on their rhetoric and actually nominate an anti-war candidate, which of course they won't because it's a party of war criminals.

[Mudhammam]

Hillary wouldn't be worse than Bush, Cruz, or Christie. Even though I don't agree with them on most issues, Rubio or Paul might not be as bad.

[Anomalocaris]

I doubt anyone inheriting half of his genes even from Hillary could be as dumb as that moron.

At least he's not a war criminal or married to one. Hillary was secretary of state while we committed war crimes abroad that she supported. Her husband's embargo in Iraq killed somewhere around half a million people in what can only be considered a war crime. Hillary is the worst candidate on either side of the ballot. I hope the democrats find someone else or that they make good on their rhetoric and actually nominate an anti-war candidate, which of course they won't because it's a party of war criminals.

Practically speaking, in a criminal world, a big country like the U.S. would be worse off being led by a big time moron than by a small time war criminal.   On the scale of war crimes Hillary, or even bill, are small time croaks indeed with only misdemeanors.   Bush is a big time, life without parol felony, war criminal every bit on par with, if not more criminal than, saddam Hussein.  Most of the republicans field would like to be seen eager to equal or surpass bush, with the exception of Paul, who is a rank moron.

I tAke petty misdemeanor Hillary any day.

[CapnAwesome]

At least he's not a war criminal or married to one. Hillary was secretary of state while we committed war crimes abroad that she supported. Her husband's embargo in Iraq killed somewhere around half a million people in what can only be considered a war crime. Hillary is the worst candidate on either side of the ballot. I hope the democrats find someone else or that they make good on their rhetoric and actually nominate an anti-war candidate, which of course they won't because it's a party of war criminals.

Practically speaking, in a criminal world, a big country like the U.S. would be worse off being led by a big time moron than by a small time war criminal.   On the scale of war crimes Hillary, or even bill, are small time croaks indeed with only misdemeanors.   Bush is a big time, life without parol felony, war criminal every bit on par with, if not more criminal than, saddam Hussein.  Most of the republicans field would like to be seen eager to equal or surpass bush, with the exception of Paul, who is a rank moron.

I tAke petty misdemeanor Hillary any day.

I disagree with her being small time. Or at least her husband anyway. While I agree that Bush was awful, almost as many people died in Iraq because of US embargos during Bill Clinton's presidency as during Bush's presidency. It's a small difference. For me it's an absolute though. I will never vote for a war criminal. Hillary is one. Jeb is certain be one. Maybe he'll be slightly worse than Hillary, but a war criminal is a war criminal. I doubt Rand Paul would be one. Almost equal is my doubt that he'll get anywhere close to the Republican nomination.

[Anomalocaris]

I make the major distinction between embargoes that kills not necessarily for a justifiable purpose, and launching a major aggressive war against international norm, and in the process makes an orderly international system with non-violent means of conflict resolution much less credible, and war in general as well as violent attempts to disrupte beneficial status quo and stability much more likely.

The farmer is a callousness, the latter the essence of war crime.

[Heywood]

I make the major distinction between embargoes that kills not necessarily for a justifiable purpose, and launching a major aggressive war against international norm, and in the process makes an orderly international system with non-violent means of conflict resolution much less credible, and war in general as well as violent attempts to disrupte beneficial status quo and stability much more likely.

The farmer is a callousness,  the latter the essence of war crime.

If the dead could talk, they would tell you death by embargo or death by war is still dead. 

You're just rationalizing voting for the slimeball that conforms to your ideology.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

I read a poll that stated if the US general election were held today, 98% of Americans would be shocked, because they thought they weren't voting until next year.

Boru

[A Theist]

Practically speaking, in a criminal world, a big country like the U.S. would be worse off being led by a big time moron than by a small time war criminal.   On the scale of war crimes Hillary, or even bill, are small time croaks indeed with only misdemeanors.   Bush is a big time, life without parol felony, war criminal every bit on par with, if not more criminal than, saddam Hussein.  Most of the republicans field would like to be seen eager to equal or surpass bush, with the exception of Paul, who is a rank moron.
I tAke petty misdemeanor Hillary any day.

I disagree with her being small time. Or at least her husband anyway. While I agree that Bush was awful, almost as many people died in Iraq because of US embargos during Bill Clinton's presidency as during Bush's presidency. It's a small difference. For me it's an absolute though. I will never vote for a war criminal. Hillary is one. Jeb is certain be one. Maybe he'll be slightly worse than Hillary, but a war criminal is a war criminal. I doubt Rand Paul would be one. Almost equal is my doubt that he'll get anywhere close to the Republican nomination.

I agree with you Cap, but...

My only rule is that I never vote for a war criminal or someone who will be a war criminal.
I've never voted.

....your vote speaks louder than your voice. Not voting is a vote for the candidate you don't like.


There was also Bill's, "Wags the Dog", in Kosovo. He involved us in a conflict to draw attention away from the Monica Blow-inski scandal.

[Hatshepsut]

I don't like her much, but I will be very excited to see her unleashed on the Republicans.  No pussy-footing around, she's going to come in and start cracking their fucking skulls!

Is it déja-vu? Were we saying this about Obama back in January 2009?

I will never vote for a war criminal...

If by war criminal you mean the president will make use of the State Department or military to implement policies which result in the deaths of human beings, I'm afraid you won't be able to vote for anyone. We're always at war, 24/7, and our acts on the international stage kill people. I believe we should minimize war and killing. For that matter, I think we totally botched Iraq beginning back in 1979 when Saddam Hussein took power and started his war with Iran. But it's unrealistic to think we will give ground on our geopolitical position regardless of the dirty games involved. Nor will we send troops to be cannon fodder in local conflicts where we have no national security interest. The moral purists would very quickly turn the USA into the tributary of another state, say China, were they able to exercise any real influence. Then the Chinese would drive big cars and live in big houses while we rode bikes, lived in cold-water tenements, and struggled to learn Chinese for business.

[Thumpalumpacus]

I will repeat what I say in every election cycle: vote third-party. I don't care which one. Get off the two-party treadmill.

Me, it depends on who the Libertarians put up. If he's one of the classical Libertarians, I may not vote at all, or I may vote for Hillary and repent at leisure. If the Libertarians put up a neo-Lib, then he or she might well get my vote.