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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 9:53 am
(May 25, 2015 at 9:37 am)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:30 am)Losty Wrote: O__O
Well...all I can say is take good care of her and be kind to her. I'll go off and try to remind myself that not everyone who wants women to be like that is a horrible person.... *shivers*
Losty-
I'm puzzled. You self-describe as a "Shameless Harlot". I'm not sure how literally I should take that, but what if some women don't want your/that lifestyle?
Are they wrong to be industrious, God-fearing, and family-oriented?
What was it about the non-denoms that turned you off?
I can't have this discussion with you. Not today. I have discussed my past experiences in some places on the forum in the past.
What I can say is that I never look down on a woman for making her own choices about how she wishes to live her life. I don't think I said anything offensive about your wife. I simply said you should take good care of her and be kind to her.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 9:56 am
(May 25, 2015 at 9:37 am)Randy Carson Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:30 am)Losty Wrote: O__O
Well...all I can say is take good care of her and be kind to her. I'll go off and try to remind myself that not everyone who wants women to be like that is a horrible person.... *shivers*
Losty-
I'm puzzled. You self-describe as a "Shameless Harlot". I'm not sure how literally I should take that, but what if some women don't want your/that lifestyle?
Are they wrong to be industrious, God-fearing, and family-oriented?
What was it about the non-denoms that turned you off?
How far down that road though ? Take kids to church on Sunday, but stay home if menstruating ? Observe dietary law ? Keep mouth shut in church ?
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 10:00 am
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(May 25, 2015 at 9:45 am)dyresand Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:37 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Losty-
I'm puzzled. You self-describe as a "Shameless Harlot". I'm not sure how literally I should take that, but what if some women don't want your/that lifestyle?
Are they wrong to be industrious, God-fearing, and family-oriented?
What was it about the non-denoms that turned you off?
Well people do what they want to do some people want to be god fearing people, some people don't. Most of the women in my generation don't want to settle down and have a family or even go to church so pretty much, the ones who do fear god and want to settle down is getting kinda hard to find to be honest.
IMO, women in Western cultures have made some serious mistakes with regard to men that have had repercussions on both sexes.
Now, I'm not saying that men haven't made mistakes, too. But with regard to marriage, by opening the doors to pre-marital sex so to speak, women screwed themselves...um...you know what I mean. 
(the next dozen or so posts ought to be interesting)
(May 25, 2015 at 9:48 am)IATIA Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:37 am)Randy Carson Wrote: ... God-fearing ...
(out of context; a slight deviation from the topic in response to a phrase)
Why do you fear your god? Is that why you cannot see the truth, for your fear of god? There is no god, so forget your fears and step into the light.
"Fear of the Lord" encompasses much more than being afraid.
I can't link to good articles until my 30 days are up, but you can Google that phrase. Add the word "Catholic" to your search for a better selection of articles.
(May 25, 2015 at 9:53 am)Losty Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:37 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Losty-
I'm puzzled. You self-describe as a "Shameless Harlot". I'm not sure how literally I should take that, but what if some women don't want your/that lifestyle?
Are they wrong to be industrious, God-fearing, and family-oriented?
What was it about the non-denoms that turned you off?
I can't have this discussion with you. Not today. I have discussed my past experiences in some places on the forum in the past.
What I can say is that I never look down on a woman for making her own choices about how she wishes to live her life. I don't think I said anything offensive about your wife. I simply said you should take good care of her and be kind to her.
No, no...I didn't take your post as negative in any way. And I will try to follow your advice...I think I married better than she did.
I only asked because it looked like you were about to make a point about Pr. 31 until I said I married one. Then you kinda shut down.
Maybe more later?
(May 25, 2015 at 9:56 am)vorlon13 Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 9:37 am)Randy Carson Wrote: Losty-
I'm puzzled. You self-describe as a "Shameless Harlot". I'm not sure how literally I should take that, but what if some women don't want your/that lifestyle?
Are they wrong to be industrious, God-fearing, and family-oriented?
What was it about the non-denoms that turned you off?
How far down that road though ? Take kids to church on Sunday, but stay home if menstruating ? Observe dietary law ? Keep mouth shut in church ?
Pope John Paul II wrote "On the Dignity and Vocation of Women". It's Latin title is MULIERIS DIGNITATEM, and you can find it on the vatican.va website or simply Google it.
The Catholic Church (and Jesus, of course) revolutionized the way that women are viewed in our society. Look at Islam if you want to see where things were before.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 11:06 am
Um, just citing chapter and verse for the revolutionized way the Catholics look at women would really help.
Cherry picking scripture is bad enough, making up scripture is even worse, if that's what happened.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 11:55 am
(May 25, 2015 at 10:00 am)Randy Carson Wrote: The Catholic Church (and Jesus, of course) revolutionized the way that women are viewed in our society. Look at Islam if you want to see where things were before.
Not allowed to change anything;
Revelations 22:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 12:49 pm
(May 25, 2015 at 11:55 am)IATIA Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 10:00 am)Randy Carson Wrote: The Catholic Church (and Jesus, of course) revolutionized the way that women are viewed in our society. Look at Islam if you want to see where things were before.
Not allowed to change anything;
Revelations 22:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
This statement was directed only at changes to the words in the book of Revelation.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 12:56 pm
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Interpretation of the bible is whatever suits the theist argument. I understand. I was under the misconception that the bible was the word of god and it was considered complete and unified.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 1:11 pm
(May 25, 2015 at 11:55 am)IATIA Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 10:00 am)Randy Carson Wrote: The Catholic Church (and Jesus, of course) revolutionized the way that women are viewed in our society. Look at Islam if you want to see where things were before.
Not allowed to change anything;
Revelations 22:
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
A classic blunder...I've heard it from Protestant many times, so don't feel too bad.
The key is highlighted. The instructions are to not make any changes to "this book". "This book" is the one in which those words are written: Revelation.
The Catholic Church has not made any changes to the Book of Revelation.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 1:20 pm
(May 25, 2015 at 12:56 pm)IATIA Wrote: Interpretation of the bible is whatever suits the theist argument. I understand. I was under the misconception that the bible was the word of god and it was considered complete and unified.
It is complete and unified, but at the same time, the statement you used to apply to all of scripture was just intended for the book of Revelation. The old testament law, from which many draw conclusions about what christians should follow, was given to to the Israeliltes and was superseded by the new covenant, given by Jesus. Just because something in certain scriptures applied to one group of people, doesn't mean it applied to all, or is still in effect. You can't just take isolated verses to make a point. You have to see the whole picture. For instance, the Jews under the old covenant were required to observe the sabbath, but we are no longer required follow the sabbath regulations.
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RE: Coming to a harsh conclusion
May 25, 2015 at 1:22 pm
(May 25, 2015 at 1:20 pm)Lek Wrote: (May 25, 2015 at 12:56 pm)IATIA Wrote: Interpretation of the bible is whatever suits the theist argument. I understand. I was under the misconception that the bible was the word of god and it was considered complete and unified.
It is complete and unified, but at the same time, the statement you used to apply to all of scripture was just intended for the book of Revelation. The old testament law, from which many draw conclusions about what christians should follow, was given to to the Israeliltes and was superseded by the new covenant, given by Jesus. Just because something in certain scriptures applied to one group of people, doesn't mean it applied to all, or is still in effect. You can't just take isolated verses to make a point. You have to see the whole picture. For instance, the Jews under the old covenant were required to observe the sabbath, but we are no longer required follow the sabbath regulations.
Well said, sir.
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