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Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 5:59 pm
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Odd topic heading right? I'm intending this more for any Christians in residence but I'd welcome the input of anyone else as well.
According to more traditional theologies in Christianity, animals do not have an immortal soul. They have "material souls" that die with the body upon death. I've got a couple of questions on this point.
1. If animals do not have immortal souls and death is the end, why is it fine to kill them? You're not just killing their bodies, you're destroying their souls, erasing them from existence. We know animals can experience physical pain, even loss if one observes the behavior of packs and herds when a member of it dies. It's immoral to kill a human, but perfectly acceptable to kill a cow because you might be hungry.
In this line of thinking, would it not be more moral to eat another human and not the cow? The human can move to another plane of existence, the cow faces oblivion.
2. If animals do not have immortal souls, that means after death they cannot be tortured forever after death for displeasing God. Isn't God showing more mercy to animals that displease him than he does to the creatures supposedly made Imago Dei ? Does God like animals more than he does people?
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:08 pm
What the fuck is a soul anyway? ._.
I mean seriously, what does that word even mean?
As to the question, god loves rocks more than humans. If we're made in his image, I think he has some serious self hate issues
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:13 pm
Well, they do have a sweet savour...
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:14 pm
According to Descartes, animals have no consciousness at all. They are like machines, and feel no pain.
Of course, it is absurd, as we know they feel pain for exactly the same reason we know people feel pain. When you poke a man with a pointy stick, he engages in pain-behavior, the same as a dog. So Descartes was being idiotic. Which he was being for religious reasons (he was Catholic).
So, what you are going to hear will depend on what Christian tradition a person is telling you about.
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:22 pm
Well, going with the hypothetical...god -inflicted us- upon animals..............
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:29 pm
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They will likely say.
Apologetic: Well... umm. Humans know good and evil... while animals is well.. umm... Well they don't umm...
Just to guess how one will counter argue it  . Although animals aren't stupid so thats false. Considering that if you lock a crow in a cage, and abuse it and let it go. Then it will remember your face for some years and warn the crow community. And if it sees your face it will attack you.
But yeah. Animals are off the hook because God is obviously a human. I mean he is afterall in our own first celled monkey image : 3
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:29 pm
The fact that he made animals so delicious shows he loves us more.
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 6:31 pm
......ah, but have you ever tried longpig? That many cannibals can't be wrong!
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 7:01 pm
Animals don't have a soul. Only humans.
Thank god I'm not an animal!
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RE: Does God love animals more than humans?
June 25, 2015 at 7:03 pm
(June 25, 2015 at 6:31 pm)Rhythm Wrote: ......ah, but have you ever tried longpig? That many cannibals can't be wrong!
I have heard that human tastes a lot like pork. Certainly, there is no reason to suppose a priori that humans are not as tasty as other animals. If you tried it, you might like it. I'll bet you can make some pretty special 'bacon' from humans.
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