Damned Catholics

[Fireball]

I'm not saying it will prevent all instances of molestation. Yes, Protestants molest too, but not nearly as much... which raises the question: Why? What's different about Protestants?

That's all I'm sayin'.

Not exactly true.  The reason the protestants don't seem to be molesting as much is because they haven't been found out, yet.  If you look at the CoE in recent years, the authorities have begun to unearth child abuse and child killing atrocities on the same lines and scales as was found out in the rcc starting twenty to thirty years ago.  They had their own mother and baby homes (where the good looking babies were sold off and the bad looking or cranky ones let die and thrown in a septic tank), their own magdalene launderies and their own mass rapists, but the authorities are only now beginning to pull back the veil of secrecy.

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Why? Because the offenders are the minions of a sovereign state? I hope that isn't what's holding people back.

You know the only thing keeping the polite fiction of the vatican being a "sovereign state" is a treaty made in 1929 with a dictator who, after being killed by being hung by his ankles and machine gunned to death, had every other treaty he signed annulled.

Maybe we should do the same with the Lateran treaty and put the church back under the heel of the Italian state.

  OK, I studied mathematical physics, and not history, for a living. I think that the RCC should be under the heel of the rest of the world. Case in point, I used to live in Los Angeles. Cardinal Mahoney was accused and proven to have covered up many a priest's sexual abuse of the children in their "care". He's not allowed to celebrate mass. Boo-fucking-hoo. He ought to be in JAIL, as well as all those priests. The LAPD investigated it and didn't follow through on it. I have a friend who is retired from the LAPD. I'll ask him why, next time I see him. He's out of town for a couple more months, so it'll have to wait.

[GUBU]

Not exactly true.  The reason the protestants don't seem to be molesting as much is because they haven't been found out, yet.  If you look at the CoE in recent years, the authorities have begun to unearth child abuse and child killing atrocities on the same lines and scales as was found out in the rcc starting twenty to thirty years ago.  They had their own mother and baby homes (where the good looking babies were sold off and the bad looking or cranky ones let die and thrown in a septic tank), their own magdalene launderies and their own mass rapists, but the authorities are only now beginning to pull back the veil of secrecy.

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You know the only thing keeping the polite fiction of the vatican being a "sovereign state" is a treaty made in 1929 with a dictator who, after being killed by being hung by his ankles and machine gunned to death, had every other treaty he signed annulled.

Maybe we should do the same with the Lateran treaty and put the church back under the heel of the Italian state.

  OK, I studied mathematical physics, and not history, for a living. I think that the RCC should be under the heel of the rest of the world. Case in point, I used to live in Los Angeles. Cardinal Mahoney was accused and proven to have covered up many a priest's sexual abuse of the children in their "care". He's not allowed to celebrate mass. Boo-fucking-hoo. He ought to be in JAIL, as well as all those priests. The LAPD investigated it and didn't follow through on it. I have a friend who is retired from the LAPD. I'll ask him why, next time I see him. He's out of town for a couple more months, so it'll have to wait.

I know why stuff like this wasn't investigated in Ireland, not alone would it be a career ender but to even get a job sweeping streets you'd have to emigrate somewhere where the rcc didn't exist. The goverment of the day were told in 1943 that the rcc run mother and baby home in Bessborough Co Cork (the one where pregnant girls were sentnout tarring roads in labour);/ had a 68% mortality rate by the county's chief medical officer. The doctor's attempt to shut the place down and bring proceedings aggainst those responsible was quickly stopped and his career ruined by John Carles McQuaid having a quiet word in deV's ear.

[Lucanus]

Maybe we should do the same with the Lateran treaty and put the church back under the heel of the Italian state.

"Back under the heel"? When was that? Did I sleep during history class? Lol

I agree though, the Concordat (a revision of the Lateran pact that was made in the 80s) gives the church way too much leeway. But of course the current government isn't going to do anything...

[vorlon13]

Catholic church has records in their archives recording instances of child sexual abuse that are 1000 years older than Protestantism.


Curious however, despite the eagerness of Christians to be schismatic, I can't recall a single instance of a new denom, sect or congregation ever citing tolerance of child abusers in the church as a reason to leave. Hat brim width, order of service, wording of hymns, approved skirt lengths for their women folk are all worth bolting for the door and building a new edifice, but NOT harming children.


Wonder why that is ??????????

[Angrboda]

A local lawyer has requested that the Minnesota state governor initiate grand jury proceedings similar to those instigated in PA.  The governor's office is reviewing the matter to determine whether the governor's office has any authority in the matter.

Why? Because the offenders are the minions of a sovereign state? I hope that isn't what's holding people back.

I think it's more a question of whether the Governor has the authority to compel the AG to initiate such an action.

[Joods]

It's just like police defenders.  "It's just a few" comes the cry.... ignoring the others who know and say nothing or lie to back up their cop buddies. 

They simply refuse to believe that the institution could be terminally corrupt!

Bold mine. 

Even one, is one too many. Catholics turn the other cheek, even when it's their own kids. Sick.

[Minimalist]

But it isn't just one.  It was 300 in Pennsylvania alone.

"Oh, but jesus" comes the wailing.

Meanwhile, nice to see the Supreme Court smack these catholick bigots down for change.

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/us-supr...ster-care/

US Supreme Court rebuffs Catholic agency over same-sex foster care

The U.S. Supreme Court declined on Thursday to force the city of Philadelphia to resume the placement of children in need of foster care with a Catholic agency that refuses to accept gay couples as foster parents.

Gay priests?  No problem.  Gay foster parents?  Can't have that.

And people wonder why I despise catholicks!

[Fake Messiah]

Using fire and sword and the immoral edicts in the Bible, over the centuries the Vatican has amassed a wealth of treasures worth trillions! They allow you to view some of their artifacts in a “VIP Tour” for the low, low price of $373.39!

[Fake Messiah]

Protester yells "shame on you" as Cardinal Wuerl addresses priest sex abuse - oh, well, that's something, I guess.

[Minimalist]

Good start for Pope Fuckface....

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/13/us/bi...ss&emc=rss

Pope Orders Investigation of West Virginia Bishop Over Sex Allegations

...but piss-poor follow through.

The pope has assigned the Archbishop of Baltimore, William E. Lori, to handle the investigation and to take temporary charge of the Diocese of Wheeling-Charleston, the church’s only diocese in West Virginia. The diocese is a small one, with about 75,000 Catholics.

That's like when one police force calls in another one to "investigate" them.  Horseshit.