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Atheists come up with ideal god
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RE: Atheists come up with ideal god
(October 9, 2015 at 4:09 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
Quote:there are multiple verses saying not to kill. you're questioning why God commanded the Israelites to slay the Canaanites, and the answer is that God said the sins of the Canaanites reached such a level that they deserved to die. Just like how we execute murders in our society, God exercised His justice.

Yes, the Bible says not to kill, although what it actually means is 'Adult male Israelites should not kill other adult male Israelites, everyone else is fair game.' But I digress.

If God is powerful enough to create to create the entire Universe through an act of will, why did he need the Israelites to kill the Canaanites? God could have simply blinked them out of existence, thus removing the need for one band of nomadic semi-savages to slaughter another. On a related note, could you list the sins committed by the Canaanite and Amalekite infants that the Israelis butchered?

Maybe your society executes murderers. Mine doesn't. Apparently, we're on a higher moral ground than Jehovah.

Shall I tell you why God ordered the Israelites to slay the Canaanites? It's quite simple, really: The Canaanites had land that the Israelis wanted. The Israelites were going to get the land. The most direct way of accomplishing this was war (it typically is). The wholesale butchery had to be explained some how or other, so the Israelites came up with, 'God told us to do this. Yeah, that's it. The Canaanites were going all sinny, so we stopped the sin with genocide, which is clearly not a sin if God says it's ok.'

It never fails to astonish me how theists can't grasp the moral conundra like this that fill the Bible.

Boru

God cannot do evil. He is perfect in righteousness. It's not wrong for God to kill because when he chooses to, it is just. And in fact you deserve to die too, and so do I. You think the Canaanites had it bad? Read the book of revelation. People refuse to believe that God is angry at us. And he can pour out His wrath whenever and however He pleases. In the last days He pours out His wrath on the Earth and it includes disease, the sun burning people to death, the water turning into blood, giant hail stones. We sin and sin but God is patient and loving. He is slow to anger and He came to save us, but there will be a day when He will destroy all evil people. You're not as good as you think. You think you can tell God what's best? you're but a mere spec of dust. Stop thinking you're better than Him.
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