RE: Is philosophy dead?
January 11, 2016 at 9:43 am
(This post was last modified: January 11, 2016 at 10:04 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 11, 2016 at 4:10 am)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:"Someone" chose to make a distinction, yes.....the distinction to which I responded, and quoted.(January 10, 2016 at 10:12 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Sure.
Neither can reason.
Has anyone claimed otherwise? Pure reason and scientific inquiry go hand in hand. Each is relatively useless without the other.
They don't go hand in hand, actually. Science is the antithesis of pure reason. I do understand what you're trying to get at though, and I agree. Without rules of inference scientific observations would lack context and explanatory power. We can collect data all day long but at some point, we have to decide the relationships between that data, we need to understand the inferences presented. This is not, however, pure reason. The two "sides" in this thread are not having the same discussion.
Science -is- philosophy. OFC they're useless without each other...this was explicitly stated in the opinion that "philosophy is dead". That philosophers (conveniently separated as a matter of conversational shorthand from scientists) have failed to leverage science, diminishing their pursuits...because...as you've just stated, philosophy is relatively useless without science (vv ofc). That's how integral science has become...juxtapose that against the notion of pure reason..wherein the law of noncontradiction - for example- is seen to be a sufficient tool with which to judge all claims of knowledge.
Lets use an example near and dear to us..here at AF. The folks who burst in with the unmoved mover. Have they kept abreast of scientific development? Particularly, have they kept abreast of scientific development in physics? It is this sort of philosophy (not at all limited to the gigglesticks we get here) which Hawkins, for example...was explicitly criticizing with his remarks. It is this sort of philosophy which, in his opinion..is dead. How about you?
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