(January 30, 2016 at 3:29 pm)Drich Wrote:(January 29, 2016 at 12:08 pm)Nihilist Virus Wrote: "ever wonder why if a particular species of a given genus shows any variances it is reclassified with a different species name or placed in a sub species category? All except Humanity? Well, in the 1930's was indeed subdivided. This division is what the Nazi's used to justify their claims of racial superiority/ablity for higher reasoning and cognitive abilities. They were not just pulling random facts out of the air. they were using real science, that at the time the world recognized. what's more they (the citizens of Nazi germany) like any of us do not generally have access to facts beyond what a given discipline wants circulated. I point back to the 'fact' that we are no longer subdivided into different or sub species categories. Our knowledge of the 'truth' is capped by the same society that provides us with 'morality.'"Very nice sport, now look up the word: SUB Species!
Evolution is defined in terms of breeding. A human of any race can breed with a human of any other race and the offspring will itself be fertile. In no sense are humans of different races belonging in a different species.
Google "definition of species".
(Also you do know you arguing with History and not me right?)
Sub species:
A taxonomist decides whether to recognize a subspecies or not. A common way to decide is that organisms belonging to different subspecies of the same species are capable of interbreeding and producing fertile offspring, but they do not usually interbreed in nature due to geographic isolation, , or other factors. The differences between subspecies are usually less distinct than the differences between species.
So even though the Jews were scattered throughout the world, they generally did not interbreed with gentiles (sexual selection criteria of subspecies met); and also Africans were originally geographically isolated. Therefore Hitler, presumably being a self-proclaimed taxonomist, made the necessary determination that Jews and Africans were indeed of a different subspecies than the Nazis.
So I didn't read it carefully before, but now yes, it's clear that Hitler perverted science to further his agenda. As you note, the scientific community does not divide humanity into different subspecies.
I find it regrettable, though, that you won't take a firm stance on your moral absolutes. Please respond to this:
1. The Jews made 600+ Do and Don't laws
2. These laws were very specific (don't cook a goat in its mother's milk?!)
3. These laws covered minor and major offenses (and punishments were applied accordingly)
4. The Jews were aware of what rape is (there was the rape of Dinah, the rape of Tamar, and the dusk-till-dawn-rape-to-death of the levite's concubine in )
5. There is no law against rape
6. There is no law against pedophilia
7. There is no law against fornication (unless one of the parties is married/engaged, in which case it is adultery)
So I find a remarkable coincidence here. We savage atheists have no morality, absolute or otherwise, and therefore our favorite pastime is of course raping babies. Yet your absolute morality does not outlaw this behavior, so you have no actual way of knowing that it is wrong. You can't admit that you know raping babies is wrong, because if you do then you admit that the atheist and the Christian both invent their own morality.
Jesus is like Pinocchio. He's the bastard son of a carpenter. And a liar. And he wishes he was real.