(March 1, 2016 at 2:25 pm)abaris Wrote:Again, Dr. Fraud, please explain..(February 29, 2016 at 3:13 pm)Drich Wrote: What I am saying is 'we' with out God can not reliably identify Good or Bad. We see as 'good' to be something that benefits us. we see Bad as something harmful. However we can not see long term effects so we judge 'good and bad' on what we 'feel' the results of an action are right away. Rather than being to determine 'good or bad' on a larger long term scale.
That says a whole lot more about yourself than you probably wanted to admit. And it says a whole lot more about your kind of morality than it says about religious values.
Quote:So, if there wasn't a god in your believes, you would be a selfish prick.At the time I started this belief I did not know God. It was late 80's early 90's and their was alot of racial tension and an over whelming sense of entitlement in the air then. This argument is how I dealt with those looking to vent their entitlement issues.
Quote:Only looking for your own benefit. I'm not surprised and I've heard that a lot from some theists. They don't admit it, of course, but the reasoning is always the same. If there wasn't god, we would act in an entirely selfish way. One even went as far, can't remember who it was, to say that it's the only thing preventing him from going on a crime spree.ooo ooo I know that was me!
I am either the super hero type or the super villain type, their is no middle ground. As most Christians understand 'we' are not basically good people. That is why most of us are in church, because we know we need redemption.