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Let's talk about... yaweh
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh
(March 9, 2016 at 10:20 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:
(March 9, 2016 at 10:05 am)Drich Wrote: What I am saying is on Day 3 (per Gen 2:8) everything in Gen2 following verse 8 happens on day 3 in the garden alone. Genesis 2 for the most part is a separate garden account. It only covers the completion of the garden and everything in it on day three. The garden was a separate creation from the rest of creation.

And what I am saying is that the text clearly indicates you are wrong.

Genesis 2:19 Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the wild animals and all the birds in the sky.

Notice this is past tense; had formed.

Genesis 1:23 And there was evening, and there was morning—the fifth day.  24 And God said, “Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind.” And it was so. ... 26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”  27 So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. ... 31 God saw all that he had made, and it was very good. And there was evening, and there was morning—the sixth day.

Genesis 1:23-31 clearly says that these events occurred on the sixth day, so they couldn't have occurred on day 3.
I understand what you think.

You think Genesis 1 and 2 are a chronological account of creation. That the events in gen1 Should precede the events in gen 2.

this is incorrect.

Gen1 is a total creation out line from day 1 to 7 that explains the creation narrative for everything except what goes on in the garden. Genesis 1-4 explains day 7 which should technically be apart of Chapter 1.

Gen 2:4-7 Explains everything after verse 7 happened on day three before plants and rain.

This is the history[a] of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground. And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...rsion=NKJV

So after creation of man, still on day three God creates everything verse 8 and forward of Gen 2, apart from everything else in Chapter 1.

 The Lord God planted a garden eastward in Eden, and there He put the man whom He had formed. And out of the ground the Lord God made every tree grow that is pleasant to the sight and good for food. The tree of life was also in the midst of the garden, and the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (on through the end of the chapter.)
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?se...rsion=NKJV
In the Jewish literary style of that day it was common practice to give an over view of the main events first then come back like chapter two does and put a pin between two events and fill in detail.

That is what chapter two is. It is a detailed account of how the Garden was created separate from the rest of the world.

If you disagree please take the time to explain what you think my position is, and how it is wrong.
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Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 2:06 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 27, 2016 at 6:45 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 7:09 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Chad32 - February 27, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - February 27, 2016 at 7:14 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Bob Kelso - February 27, 2016 at 11:14 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by J a c k - February 27, 2016 at 7:28 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 7:35 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by J a c k - February 27, 2016 at 7:43 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Aegon - February 27, 2016 at 8:00 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - February 27, 2016 at 8:27 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Chad32 - February 27, 2016 at 8:03 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 8:12 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Chad32 - February 27, 2016 at 8:40 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 8:47 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - February 27, 2016 at 9:44 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by vorlon13 - February 27, 2016 at 9:50 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - February 27, 2016 at 8:19 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 8:33 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by KevinM1 - February 27, 2016 at 8:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by ignoramus - February 28, 2016 at 3:59 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 27, 2016 at 8:36 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by J a c k - February 27, 2016 at 9:32 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - February 27, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 27, 2016 at 10:42 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - February 28, 2016 at 2:11 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 28, 2016 at 2:40 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 3, 2016 at 8:32 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by FebruaryOfReason - February 28, 2016 at 5:59 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 28, 2016 at 1:48 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 28, 2016 at 6:23 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 28, 2016 at 9:13 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 28, 2016 at 6:20 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Expired - February 28, 2016 at 7:27 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - February 28, 2016 at 1:49 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by J a c k - February 28, 2016 at 2:04 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by drfuzzy - February 28, 2016 at 3:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Wyrd of Gawd - February 28, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - February 28, 2016 at 6:35 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Aegon - February 28, 2016 at 4:11 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Jackalope - February 28, 2016 at 4:53 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 2, 2016 at 1:30 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - March 2, 2016 at 1:50 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 3, 2016 at 10:32 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - March 4, 2016 at 2:32 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 4, 2016 at 4:30 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - March 4, 2016 at 7:30 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 9, 2016 at 10:05 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - March 9, 2016 at 10:20 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 9, 2016 at 11:12 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - March 9, 2016 at 9:19 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 10, 2016 at 12:46 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - March 10, 2016 at 8:17 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 9:57 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 3, 2016 at 11:20 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 3, 2016 at 12:24 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 3, 2016 at 8:45 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - March 3, 2016 at 12:07 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Crossless1 - March 3, 2016 at 1:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 3, 2016 at 2:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 3, 2016 at 9:57 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Huggy Bear - March 4, 2016 at 11:18 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 4, 2016 at 7:49 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2016 at 11:31 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 4, 2016 at 12:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Crossless1 - March 4, 2016 at 1:14 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 4, 2016 at 4:25 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Crossless1 - March 4, 2016 at 4:42 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by FebruaryOfReason - March 4, 2016 at 4:52 pm
Let's talk about... yaweh - by LadyForCamus - March 3, 2016 at 9:01 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by The Valkyrie - March 3, 2016 at 9:45 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Drich - March 4, 2016 at 4:39 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 6, 2016 at 9:02 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Huggy Bear - March 6, 2016 at 11:42 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 12:11 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Minimalist - March 7, 2016 at 1:46 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 10:21 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Huggy Bear - March 7, 2016 at 12:58 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 2:09 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Huggy Bear - March 7, 2016 at 2:29 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 3:07 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 4:00 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 2:56 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 2:49 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Athene - March 7, 2016 at 1:19 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 2:01 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Athene - March 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 3:03 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Huggy Bear - March 7, 2016 at 1:44 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Whateverist - March 7, 2016 at 3:08 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 3:12 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Whateverist - March 7, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 5:17 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Athene - March 7, 2016 at 4:19 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 4:28 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Joods - March 7, 2016 at 5:15 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 5:32 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Athene - March 7, 2016 at 5:39 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by God of Mr. Hanky - March 7, 2016 at 5:43 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by The Valkyrie - March 7, 2016 at 5:50 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Athene - March 7, 2016 at 6:34 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by dyresand - March 9, 2016 at 1:22 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by robvalue - March 9, 2016 at 3:04 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by drfuzzy - March 9, 2016 at 5:20 pm
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by Angrboda - March 12, 2016 at 10:28 am
RE: Let's talk about... yaweh - by robvalue - March 12, 2016 at 10:39 am

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