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Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply.
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RE: Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply.
(March 29, 2016 at 10:08 am)Time Traveler Wrote: Stated more simply: If God himself cannot create life under any other conditions, then he designed nothing, but only discovered the one way in which a life-sustaining universe could be constructed. If God could create sustainable life in any type of universe, then our universe is nothing special and thus not finely-tuned.


If one is attempting to decide the probability that our universe contains fine tuning, it should be obvious that one needs to consider the constraints placed on parameter values for any particular universe and number of universes over which these parameters pertain.
We know neither.
Therefore, the correct interpretation for the seemingly exact settings for cosmic constants is:
We don't know.  (Theists are uncomfortable with this answer.)

In actuality, it could be a single infinite universe of entirely random (no correlation between adjacent events) material.
There would be arbitrarily large volumes of order in this random material entirely due to coincidence.
Needless to say, the weak anthropic principle requires that the universe we observe exists in one such volume.

It may not be possible to check out from Hilbert's Hotel California.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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RE: Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply. - by JuliaL - March 29, 2016 at 12:33 pm
RE: Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply. - by deleteduser12345 - March 29, 2016 at 6:15 pm
RE: Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply. - by deleteduser12345 - March 30, 2016 at 4:39 am
RE: Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply. - by deleteduser12345 - March 29, 2016 at 7:17 pm
RE: Finely-tuned universe wanted: Intelligent Designers need not apply. - by deleteduser12345 - March 30, 2016 at 5:46 am

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