Atheist thinker, or ignorant believer?

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Yeah...

Religion is somewhat self destructive. It's based on different groups of people just making wildly different claims, none of which are based on anything real. When two very vocal religions clash, there's going to be sparks.

I know you think you have special formula and the "true version" of the "true religion", but I'm afraid you're just another theist out of the millions who all think the exact same thing. The reasoning you use is the same as what they use. You just see it more clearly when it's someone else making wild unsubstantiated claims. I have a lot of respect for you though, you're coming incredibly close to clarity. Closer than any theist has come in all the time I've been in the forum. Your thinking has advanced a whole lot.

You're right, atheists aren't in general trying to "tear down religion". That's a minority. Most of them, in my experience, just want religion calmed down so that it doesn't have special privelege and cause harm. Religion exposes itself for what it is just fine without needing any help from us.