(June 26, 2016 at 1:49 pm)Ayen Wrote:(June 26, 2016 at 9:54 am)lisah Wrote: I've never seen this argument before. But, it seems to me that if the universe is a byproduct (as suggested by your title), then one would need to know the product that was being created that lead to the byproduct. And, maybe, who the creator was of the original product might also need to be known.
I don't think the word "byproduct" in your title would be the correct word for what is proposed.
Maybe the rest of the post needs to be clarified for me, because the idea of 'Perfect God' is merely a reflection of the measurement of mankind as imperfect and an imagined ideal condition of mankind imposed on a godform.
Maybe not, but that was the word used in the argument so it's what I shared.
Yeah, okay, saying 'Perfect God conundrum' was confusing. That was the name of the thread, but the actual question being asked was why an omniscient, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent god would create the universe which led to the usual 'we cannot comprehend' that is always used so people don't have to think about it, and then the argument I highlighted in my OP cropped up.
I see.
It seems to me that the argument still avoids the question why by eliminating the need for a why. If I understand correctly.
"My imagination makes me human and makes me a fool; it gives me all the world and exiles me from it."
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