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The universe existing as a byproduct of God?
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RE: The universe existing as a byproduct of God?
(June 27, 2016 at 6:54 pm)SteveII Wrote:
(June 26, 2016 at 1:49 pm)Ayen Wrote: Maybe not, but that was the word used in the argument so it's what I shared.

Yeah, okay, saying 'Perfect God conundrum' was confusing. That was the name of the thread, but the actual question being asked was why an omniscient, omnipresent, and omnibenevolent god would create the universe which led to the usual 'we cannot comprehend' that is always used so people don't have to think about it, and then the argument I highlighted in my OP cropped up.

Wouldn't we, by definition, be unable to comprehend a timeless, immaterial, omniscient, omnipotent, and omnibenevolent God? Why isn't it reasonable to assume that our level of comprehension is the highest we are capable given that we are exactly opposite to the list of these attributes. What would you expect to be different?

Why can't an all knowing, all powerful god be able to create a universe where its mere existence wouldn't be an impossibility and we'd be able to perfectly understand it so we wouldn't even be having this discussion?
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The universe existing as a byproduct of God? - by Ayen - June 26, 2016 at 4:58 am
RE: The universe existing as a byproduct of God? - by Ayen - June 27, 2016 at 9:18 pm

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