(July 10, 2016 at 11:18 pm)Thena323 Wrote:(July 10, 2016 at 10:13 pm)paulpablo Wrote: I was talking about police brutality in the US and how interactions with black people and the police.
Thena was then talking about her sons being stopped twice as anecdotal evidence of something, I don't know what. So in saying so her sons were stopped by the police and they're black and they were innocent. I've been stopped by the police and I'm white and I was innocent, more than twice.
I imagine men get stopped more than women also, and that because of increased interaction with the police and the increased likelyhood that a man will resist arrest or get violent with the police that police brutality is more common on men in general.
I imagine if I was a woman in the area of that stabbing or the car robbery, or walking home at night the police would have been more likely to stop and ask if I'm ok getting home rather than shout me over as a suspect.
Not to say that men, or black men or anyone else are never victims of police prejudice, just that I think most times it isn't police prejudice. I don't think police hate men, I think they just know men commit way more crime so they're bound to stop them more in general
The anecdotal evidence swapping between me and Thena really means nothing either way, it's not evidence we're just both swapping stories of being stopped by police.
You're full of it, paulpablo.
I relayed the stories about my sons as a response to your claim that blacks are beaten and killed by police, because they have more direct involvement with law enforcement due to "gangbanging" and constant criminal behavior; They were provided as an examples of racial profiling. I don't need to provide "evidence" that racial profiling exists. It's a well-known, well-documented fact.
Stops that occur as a result of racial profiling, account for a significant number of the interactions between police and black males in the US. As it is in fact, generally defined as the act of stopping/questioning individuals for no reason other than race/ethnicity, I thought I'd do well to point out the stupidity in your "Blacks wouldn't get brutalized by cops, if they'd just quit the gangbanging" premise. That's all.
Don't try to tie my earlier response in with that gobbledygook you posted above.
If you don't need proof of what you're trying to claim then don't use anecdotal proof when it means nothing.
I never claimed that black people are beaten and killed by police because they have more contact with law enforcement and so on.
What I claimed is that the percentages of black people involved in police brutality would match up with their population size if no police prejudice was involved, but also for a completely equal representation in that aspect it would also mean black people and white people would have to commit equal amounts of crime, resist arrest in equal amounts and be just as violent against the police as white people.
Since they aren't, a disproportionate amount of cop killers are black for example, it can't just be completely put down to the police being racially prejudice because not all races are equally causing as much disturbance with the law and police.
Not just simply that black people are being killed by police because they commit crime, there's probably lots of factors, but lots of factors beyond racial discrimination.
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