RE: Ayn Rand's philosophy of Objectivism
July 15, 2016 at 8:38 pm
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2016 at 8:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 15, 2016 at 7:34 pm)bennyboy Wrote: Actually, I think it's that we have such a strong instinct for adversity that we project onto non-adverse circumstances. I've seen people rage-- I mean fucking go off the handle-- because someone cut in line at Starbuck's, or left a shopping cart in the middle of the aisle and wandered away.-and? Adversity, like all other human experience, is subjective. The knife may not be as deep, but is the pain any less acute on account of that? Because that's all that really matters if we need struggle and adversity. Not the factual status of either. You clearly feel a loss on account of a -lack- of adversity. Is that more or less painful and character building than chasing your dinner? I've chased mine....I've suffered, does that make me more developed than yourself? It hardly seems so.
Quote:I don't think this kind of adversity will bring out the best in life, though. The need to develop technology to fight off or conquer that next city state, or to put food on the table, might. And interestingly, in most of history, Rand's ideas would have been largely a "no duh!" to the power class.
We still need to fight off the next city state, and we still do. We've never actually finished the task of putting food on the table. As for Rands ideas being a "no duh" sort of thing to a power class....maybe, IDK, but that might explain why the power class have been such useless shits all this time.
As far as that's concerned..I have no use for her ideas. I'm not interested in rational self interest - I don't need a reason to engage in self interested pursuits nor do I feel compelled to rationalize them in order to justify them morally. Axiomatically, I am at the opposite end of that spectrum, and those ideas of hers that conflict with mine are similarly fiat accompli...and so beyond debate. My life for our lives. Others before myself. Tell me that either of these things are not virtuous, or are "wrong" by Ayn Rands standards and I'd tell you that -I- don't really care (and how could her philosophy argue against -that-...eh?). I see it as a philosophy of the perpetual do'wells.....it works fine when things aren't tight, you'd garrote a motherfucker in their sleep if they thought like that when things were difficult. Or, at least....I would....because they're clearly a liability to the rest of us..... right, wrong, rational, or otherwise.
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