The problem with prayer.

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The problem with prayer.

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RE: The problem with prayer.

July 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm (This post was last modified: July 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm by robvalue.)

From our point of view, supernatural cause A is identical to supernatural cause B, which is identical to no cause at all. All we see is the effect.

If we can tell the difference, they are science-able. Can't have it both ways.

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The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 20, 2016 at 9:52 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by mediocrates - July 20, 2016 at 10:06 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 10:07 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ApeNotKillApe - July 20, 2016 at 10:13 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 10:38 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - July 25, 2016 at 10:56 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by FatAndFaithless - July 20, 2016 at 10:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 20, 2016 at 10:34 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 10:40 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 20, 2016 at 10:42 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 10:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by brewer - July 20, 2016 at 1:58 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Spirian - July 20, 2016 at 2:39 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Simon Moon - July 20, 2016 at 2:50 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by brewer - July 20, 2016 at 3:48 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Spirian - July 20, 2016 at 4:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by chimp3 - August 1, 2016 at 10:20 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:01 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:06 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:07 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 20, 2016 at 11:12 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:08 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:11 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 11:26 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:36 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 11:51 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Angrboda - July 20, 2016 at 1:49 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 20, 2016 at 11:55 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 20, 2016 at 12:49 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 20, 2016 at 12:57 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 20, 2016 at 2:14 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 21, 2016 at 7:08 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 20, 2016 at 1:16 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 21, 2016 at 12:33 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 1:21 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 1:34 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Simon Moon - July 20, 2016 at 2:41 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by CapnAwesome - July 20, 2016 at 1:44 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Spirian - July 20, 2016 at 1:48 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 20, 2016 at 2:14 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 20, 2016 at 2:18 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by PETE_ROSE - July 20, 2016 at 3:31 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Simon Moon - July 20, 2016 at 3:53 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Viking - July 20, 2016 at 4:46 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2016 at 4:55 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 21, 2016 at 6:34 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 21, 2016 at 6:40 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by chimp3 - July 21, 2016 at 6:54 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 21, 2016 at 1:04 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 21, 2016 at 1:44 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 23, 2016 at 3:45 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 23, 2016 at 8:00 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 24, 2016 at 4:20 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 25, 2016 at 10:40 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 26, 2016 at 3:28 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 4:10 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 27, 2016 at 2:52 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Grandizer - July 26, 2016 at 7:20 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 27, 2016 at 3:44 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Grandizer - July 27, 2016 at 8:22 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 29, 2016 at 2:30 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 27, 2016 at 1:43 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 29, 2016 at 2:25 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 29, 2016 at 6:13 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 3:58 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 30, 2016 at 9:23 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 4, 2016 at 2:46 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 29, 2016 at 5:43 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gemini - July 29, 2016 at 6:20 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 3:56 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 3:55 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 26, 2016 at 1:06 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 27, 2016 at 3:41 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 27, 2016 at 6:28 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 29, 2016 at 2:35 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 26, 2016 at 6:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Spirian - July 21, 2016 at 1:58 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 21, 2016 at 2:16 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 21, 2016 at 3:00 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by brewer - July 21, 2016 at 7:56 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 23, 2016 at 3:47 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 23, 2016 at 8:01 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 23, 2016 at 8:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 24, 2016 at 7:56 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 24, 2016 at 3:32 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Silver - July 24, 2016 at 5:05 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 24, 2016 at 3:41 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 24, 2016 at 3:46 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Esquilax - July 24, 2016 at 5:03 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 24, 2016 at 3:45 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 25, 2016 at 8:17 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 8:11 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 24, 2016 at 8:54 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Silver - July 24, 2016 at 9:30 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - July 24, 2016 at 9:45 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 25, 2016 at 11:45 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 24, 2016 at 10:54 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 25, 2016 at 7:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 8:43 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 8:54 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by LostLocke - July 25, 2016 at 9:41 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Drich - July 25, 2016 at 10:07 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 25, 2016 at 12:56 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - July 25, 2016 at 1:02 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 25, 2016 at 1:17 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 10:15 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Drich - July 25, 2016 at 3:09 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Nay_Sayer - July 25, 2016 at 6:04 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Drich - July 26, 2016 at 8:12 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - July 26, 2016 at 8:31 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 26, 2016 at 12:15 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Esquilax - July 26, 2016 at 12:57 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Crossless1 - July 25, 2016 at 10:39 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 25, 2016 at 11:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - July 25, 2016 at 11:06 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 25, 2016 at 11:20 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - July 25, 2016 at 11:21 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 12:40 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 25, 2016 at 6:47 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 7:29 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 11:06 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 1:19 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 25, 2016 at 1:21 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 1:24 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by FatAndFaithless - July 25, 2016 at 1:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 1:27 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 25, 2016 at 7:56 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 1:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 1:29 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 2:58 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by FatAndFaithless - July 25, 2016 at 3:00 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 3:15 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 6:50 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 25, 2016 at 7:15 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 7:17 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 7:56 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 25, 2016 at 8:01 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 8:07 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 8:09 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 8:11 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 25, 2016 at 8:16 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 8:29 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by drfuzzy - July 25, 2016 at 8:46 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 8:13 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Silver - July 25, 2016 at 8:31 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Valkyrie - July 25, 2016 at 8:36 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 25, 2016 at 9:26 pm

The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - July 25, 2016 at 9:44 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 10:21 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 25, 2016 at 10:38 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 10:23 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 10:25 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 10:27 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 25, 2016 at 10:41 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 25, 2016 at 10:45 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 25, 2016 at 10:50 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Homeless Nutter - July 26, 2016 at 5:50 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 25, 2016 at 11:33 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 26, 2016 at 5:32 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 26, 2016 at 7:08 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 26, 2016 at 7:09 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Gawdzilla - July 26, 2016 at 8:10 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 8:14 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 26, 2016 at 12:06 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 26, 2016 at 12:15 pm

The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - July 26, 2016 at 12:56 pm

The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - July 26, 2016 at 12:59 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 26, 2016 at 5:49 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Angrboda - July 26, 2016 at 7:24 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2016 at 7:51 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 26, 2016 at 8:00 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 26, 2016 at 8:02 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 26, 2016 at 8:55 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Angrboda - July 26, 2016 at 9:47 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 26, 2016 at 9:05 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 26, 2016 at 9:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by vorlon13 - July 26, 2016 at 11:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 26, 2016 at 9:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 26, 2016 at 9:20 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 26, 2016 at 10:20 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by bennyboy - July 26, 2016 at 10:53 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Valkyrie - July 26, 2016 at 10:56 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - July 26, 2016 at 10:43 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 26, 2016 at 11:23 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Valkyrie - July 26, 2016 at 11:35 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 27, 2016 at 3:16 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 27, 2016 at 6:12 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2016 at 9:39 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 27, 2016 at 6:48 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - July 27, 2016 at 9:42 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 27, 2016 at 10:07 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 27, 2016 at 9:46 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2016 at 2:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by ignoramus - July 27, 2016 at 11:09 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by vorlon13 - July 28, 2016 at 8:39 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by rado84 - July 28, 2016 at 7:55 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 2:58 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 29, 2016 at 2:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 3:43 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 4:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Excited Penguin - July 29, 2016 at 3:51 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 4:00 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - August 1, 2016 at 9:31 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 4, 2016 at 2:33 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - August 4, 2016 at 10:47 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 5, 2016 at 4:15 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Angrboda - August 4, 2016 at 6:54 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 5, 2016 at 4:20 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Angrboda - August 5, 2016 at 10:58 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Nay_Sayer - August 11, 2016 at 2:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Incognito - August 1, 2016 at 10:15 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 4, 2016 at 2:44 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Excited Penguin - August 4, 2016 at 2:46 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 4, 2016 at 3:17 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Excited Penguin - August 4, 2016 at 3:19 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Expired - August 4, 2016 at 4:16 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 5, 2016 at 4:11 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Expired - August 5, 2016 at 2:22 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Jesster - August 11, 2016 at 5:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Crossless1 - August 11, 2016 at 5:41 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Jesster - August 11, 2016 at 5:43 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - August 11, 2016 at 8:56 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Grandizer - August 11, 2016 at 9:25 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by drfuzzy - August 13, 2016 at 8:15 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Grandizer - August 13, 2016 at 8:41 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Incognito - August 31, 2016 at 2:38 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 29, 2016 at 3:35 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 29, 2016 at 3:38 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Czechlervitz30 - July 29, 2016 at 3:41 am

The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - July 29, 2016 at 9:18 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 9:24 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 29, 2016 at 9:26 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 29, 2016 at 9:30 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 9:55 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - July 29, 2016 at 10:14 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 11:38 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 11:39 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - July 29, 2016 at 11:52 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by FatAndFaithless - July 29, 2016 at 11:53 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 29, 2016 at 11:53 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by popsthebuilder - July 29, 2016 at 4:29 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 29, 2016 at 7:12 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 3:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 4:01 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 4:39 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 4:52 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - August 4, 2016 at 2:54 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Minimalist - July 31, 2016 at 1:46 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 4:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Godschild - July 30, 2016 at 4:41 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 4:51 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 9:28 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - July 30, 2016 at 9:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 30, 2016 at 10:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Neo-Scholastic - July 31, 2016 at 10:27 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - August 1, 2016 at 9:38 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Losty - August 2, 2016 at 2:42 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - July 31, 2016 at 1:28 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 1, 2016 at 12:45 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Cyberman - August 1, 2016 at 1:03 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 1, 2016 at 1:00 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 2, 2016 at 12:03 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 2, 2016 at 2:50 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Fidel_Castronaut - August 2, 2016 at 2:59 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Expired - August 2, 2016 at 3:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by madog - August 2, 2016 at 4:54 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 4, 2016 at 3:02 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - August 4, 2016 at 6:17 pm

The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - August 4, 2016 at 8:55 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - August 5, 2016 at 1:14 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - August 5, 2016 at 4:14 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 5, 2016 at 6:59 am

The problem with prayer. - by LadyForCamus - August 5, 2016 at 8:13 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - August 5, 2016 at 8:16 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Edwardo Piet - August 5, 2016 at 8:16 am

RE: The problem with prayer. - by The Grand Nudger - August 5, 2016 at 3:30 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Whateverist - August 11, 2016 at 8:55 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by robvalue - August 5, 2016 at 3:55 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by Nay_Sayer - August 11, 2016 at 2:15 pm

RE: The problem with prayer. - by rado84 - August 23, 2016 at 7:31 am

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