(August 21, 2016 at 10:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(August 20, 2016 at 3:05 pm)Lek Wrote: I guess I would donate it to science so they could examine it then pass it on to the scientific community to demonstrate that Jesus actually did exist. Otherwise, I see no value in relics since they don't bring us any closer to Jesus.
Then you see no values in Christian cathedrals that were all built around relics of saints and Jesus. Like Notre-Dame de Paris which has piece of the Cross, a nail of the Passion and the Holy Crown of Thorns. I guess you think of all those Catholics worshiping those obviously faked relics as real pretty stupid.
So you see them as fakes not worth giving to historians? But I get your despair to prove Jesus really existed since there are no pieces of archaeological evidence for the existence of Jesus, and the earliest writings known to have taken place regarding Jesus still occurred some decades after his supposed death around the time of Paul of Tarsus. Or frequently mentioned philosopher Philo of Alexandria who was born before the beginning of the Christian era, and lived until long after the reputed death of Christ. He wrote an account of the Jews covering the entire time that Christ is said to have existed on earth. He was living in or near Jerusalem when Christ’s miraculous birth and the Herodian massacre occurred. He was there when Christ myth made his triumphal entry into Jerusalem. He was there when the crucifixion with its attendant earthquake, supernatural darkness and resurrection of the dead took place when Christ himself supposedly rose from the dead and in the presence of some witnesses ascended into heaven. These marvelous events which must have filled the world with amazement, had they really occurred, were unknown to him.
I didn't say that relics are fake; I said that I see no value in them. Holding a piece of the cross doesn't bring me any closer to Jesus. Some people end up worshiping the relic as if it were an idol. Paul of Tarsus was an associate of the apostle Peter, who walked with Jesus, and also of James, the brother of Jesus.
