RE: Why do the ritors ask for Justice?
September 26, 2016 at 11:47 am
(This post was last modified: September 26, 2016 at 11:52 am by Drich.)
(September 24, 2016 at 7:49 pm)Thena323 Wrote: I don't think police brutality is only a matter of race. Blacks are certainly more likely to experience a negative outcome as a result of an interaction with an officer presenting with an authoritarian personality, but others can and do find themselves at the receiving end of police misconduct. Anyone with a lick of sense should be seriously disturbed by some these stories. It could happen to them.I think you are somewhat right here as well. It isn't a matter of race and being treated badly. It is almost always certainly a matter of attitude.
Quote:Well, that's why you should stick to selling refrigerated trucks, instead of becoming a police officer. You have no business being one.you are right.
I looked at being a cop and did my research. My problem is all the petty nonsense your asked to deal with along with the prospect of getting shot or shot at because someone did something wrong that i may not even know about so they over react when i pull them over for tail light.
Quote:I never said all officers display those those traits. Some of them do, though; They're the ones that are part of the problem.you are right some indeed do, but they tend to wash out before too long. Or do you think given the social climate cops are recruiting guys like this and protecting them when they do something stupid?
Quote:Additionally, all police officers are not required to undergo psychological evaluations. And currently, there's no nationwide standardization in place for administration or content of such evaluations. It literally varies from department to department.Out side of the small town (where nothing happens) police officers are tested. And some of the reserve officers don't get tested and some of the administrative officers also forego testing. But there isn't a major city/population area that cops aren't tested in.
Quote:http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/29191...s-the-test
Because states regulate how municipal departments operate, typically by creating state commissions or academies to determine hiring and training standards, there is currently no national standard for how police recruit candidates, how they are psychologically evaluated, or even whether or not such evaluations should be mandatory.
Some states use vague language in their statutes, requiring only that a candidate must "be free of" any mental or emotional condition that may affect the candidates' ability to perform their job functions. In some cases, this determination is made through the background investigation process alone. In other cases, the commission and/or state statute says that a clinical physician will make such a determination as part of a required physical examination.
Quote:I would propose that's precisely the sort of attitude that lies at the heart of the problem, much of the time.Indeed. People trying to out bully or out shout, or even out argue (in a legal sense) a cop are the problem. People need to see and understand the seperation of powers the courts and the police department has.
Quote:Cops who think like you, who are too willing to make sweeping generalizations about an entire race, and generally unwilling to give people the privilege of simple consideration as a individual human being.But again, here's the thing.. If an officer's commands are not followed then the sweeping generalization is proven correct.
Where as compliance diffuses the sweeping generalization each and every time. Just because one makes a generalization does not mean it is wrong. Especially if it is being proved correct with a combative person who will not allow the officer to diffuse the situation on his trained terms.
Again, it's real simple the police have a series of protocols in which the must act. they for the must part act like robots. If you comply they must De-escilate if they don't then at your civil trial you have a winning lottery ticket. How ever if you do not comply, they have your ticket and can punch it at anytime.
Quote: The wildly prejudicial belief that "All Negroes need to be shown a firm hand" likely drives yours motives and actions whenever you interact with blacks. I get that you're "okay" with that.F-U and the black chip on your shoulder. How about ANYONE needs to be shown a firm hand if they do not comply and NO one gets a pass moron. You are the one looking for special dispensation in accordance to race. I've been' shown a firm hand' by the police and never once have i complained. Why? because i know it is better for the community before suspected bad guys are subdued before they have a chance to hurt anyone in the community including police officers.. I laid on the asphalt handcuffed with a knee on my back and a bloody lip without the privledge of pants with a gun pressed against the nape of my neck because the Seminole Country Sheriff's department thought the captured the DC sniper IN ORLANDO... All because I fit the profile (white unmarked box truck) and no other reason aside from a guy said he saw me with a gun that I did not have. (my wife was allowed to keep her pants but she too got the gun and handcuff treatment) Till they figured out we were just comming back for a refrig truck break down call. All i got was a quick sorry and a "have you heard of the DC sniper driving a white box truck?"
I've been tackled by a detective and body slammed because i started to run from some bald white guy in plain cloths, again cause i loosly fit some description of some dangerous gang member. I just pulled in to a movie theater to pick up my cousin and he was running to catch me then next thing I know i was being blocked in by cop cars with guns drawn everyone screaming hands then one guy started to pull me out of the window cause he could not get the door open, the car started to roll forward because he was pulling me off the brake, one cop was screaming for the others to get out of the way so he could shoot me for trying to escape... Apparently someone fitting my "Mexican heritage" description was supposed to do a drive by shooting at said theater.
Not to mention the level of harassment I underwent with at least 50 'tail light/BS pull overs for pulling out of a black neighborhood during my innercity ministry years, and all the searches on the side of the road that left me with the guts of my car strewn about.
Not once did I think Hmm. they have it out for me, or I need to get a lawyer, or that if I were only white/white people don't go through this... No I knew that people who at the wrong place at the wrong time that look like are doing the wrong things will be checked...
Again never once complained, sued, or go off on some racial B/S tirade. Again the equation is simple argue with a cop, get manhandled, fight a cop=forfeit your life. Comply with a cop, diffuse a situation. both sides of this works white, black, yellow or any combination thereof. And again that is the way it should be. We all need to yield to the criminal justice process and there should be no special dispensation for you just because your black, one way or the other.
Quote:But, having power over the life and death of others, isn't in your hands 12 to 16 hours a day, is it?Actually I am a conceal carry citizen and the same rules from which a cop can legal kill someone cover me as well. It's just my job does not put me in harms way most days. Never the less the responsibility is there every waking moment.