RE: Why do the ritors ask for Justice?
September 28, 2016 at 11:15 am
(This post was last modified: September 28, 2016 at 11:56 am by Huggy Bear.)
(September 27, 2016 at 4:15 pm)Drich Wrote:(September 26, 2016 at 8:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I'm not changing any narrative, I showed you video of 2 men resisting cops by using force. The charges were dropped. If you're not allowed to resist cops authority, then explain why the charges were dropped.The bold part of your statement is what I mean people wrongly assume that an arrest is a judgement. Which is why I said:
Many, people foolish think that an arrest or being detain is the same as being sentenced to a prison term. So they over react, and try and excuse none compliant behavior with how the law reads.. Due process at this point does include an opportunity for you or me to defend one self. that is a matter of the court.
You wrongly assumed that just because one is arrested the charges should stick. I am saying cops have one job, and that is to detain or arrest people. that's it that's all. The due process/justice part does not end with an arrest. It comes at trial. Or in your two videos case, all the checks and balances before the trial like say the Sergent's or the prosecutor's desk.
My whole point in the statement "you can't alpha a cop" means you're going to jail come hell or high water if a cop has it in his mind to take you. Now.. Does that trip to jail mean the cop was justified or his decision will stand up to the conviction process?? no. But again, that is not what I am talking about, which is why I said you changed the narrative. As I was only trying to say that if a cop has it in his mind to take you to jail your going and no amount of BS or even effort is going to keep you out of jail... so then why fight? Why BS?? Why put on a defense for the cop/why pour on the civil rights crap? if your going to jail, your going to jail, you citing due process (what happens after said arrest) is not going to matter during an arrest. Which again is what people seem like they don't know or are forgetting.
Durning the arrest process we are all expected to surrender with out a fight. Once we put up a fight then the cops are witnessing a crime (resisting arrest or assault on a police officer) in which case are allowed to suspend your 'rights' in your apprehension. which is why I said all your civil rights crap was just that during an arrest. Once you have been detained then your rights are reapplied, which affords you due process that determines if an arrest was proper or if you are guilty of any crime that may have had the cops arrest you to begin with.
I don't think you get the point I'm trying to make, read my quote again.
(September 26, 2016 at 8:44 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: I'm not changing any narrative, I showed you video of 2 men resisting cops by using force. The charges were dropped. If you're not allowed to resist cops authority, then explain why the charges were dropped.
My question, why were the charges of assault on a police officer dropped? They are clearly shown on video fighting with the cops, but according to YOU, one is not allowed to resist an unlawful arrest, and should just bend over and take it.
So I ask again, why were the charges dropped?
(September 27, 2016 at 4:31 pm)Drich Wrote: NOT FOR A 12 YEAROLD!
Open carry or not this law does not apply to a kid with a gun.
Where is the common sense in this argument? how does the rights of a man let alone a man of a specific race transfer to a child?
I don't think I follow you. Are you saying that since it's totally legal for adults to openly carry a firearm, any children that do so should (Tamir Rice wasn't carrying a firearm) be shot on sight?
(September 27, 2016 at 4:31 pm)Drich Wrote: Or is your evocation of "black folk" supposed to scare me off from calling your bluff?
well it didn't. I'm all in. Show me where open carry laws in ohio allow for 12 year olds to carry openly and then show me where it is ok for them to brandish point them at people in public places. Because that is what can be seen in the video, that is what was reported, and that is the situation the officers were called into.
How many times did James Holmes brandish and point a gun a people? Oh wait he actually killed 12 people... he was taken alive.
How many times did Dylan Roof brandish and point a gun a people? Oh wait he actually killed 9 people... he was also taken alive and bought a burger to boot.