I am a theist, what do you think of my proof for God existing?

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Thanks a lot to the founders and owners and operators of this forum, all hail to them that I am still around.

Dear atheist colleagues, please do not derail this thread with harping on my not employing all the codes here, but I am already into a trial to change WYSIWYG edit to simple edit, but I am not succeeding.

At least I am like the proverbial cat whether black or white it catches the mice, and is loved by its cat loving owner.

Another house-cleaning chore from my part for my landscape view here, please abstain dear atheist colleagues here from the sh** and fu** words, because I beg of you, it is not doing credit to, as you are atheists, to this Atheistforums.org.

Whenever someone says that, I get the urge to use this video:

You atheist colleagues keep on and on saying that you don't see my proof to be any proof, but I ask you to show me an example of how if ever you prove something to exist in objective reality, and I am not getting any at all;

There is the solipsist position which states that nothing outside our own minds can be said to be 100% certified real... meaning, nothing can be proven to exist.
That position, you'll agree, would accomplish little. So we take the practical route and accept that our senses provide a coarse, but somewhat reliable representation of reality.

From that, anything our senses sense should be connected to a real existing object. There's how to prove something exists: touch it, see it. Repeat. Have others do it too and confirm your findings. Better yet, design machines that improve upon human senses and probe further into the objects previously thought to be in a particular way to get at its most basic constituents and understand the whole build from the bottom, up.

The trouble arises when one person claims to sense something that others don't.
Either the others believe him or not...

But, nowadays, armed with knowledge of how tricky our minds can be, we should be sufficiently aware to always refrain from believing such far off statements by a few individuals...
But that was not the case 5000 or more years ago... people had no idea... people fell for it. All it would take was a particularly charismatic deluded person and a whole tribe would be deluded with him.

So now we have a whole population of deluded people perpetuating the idiocy of ancient times.

please at least see that I have presented a proof, you also present an example of a proof of something existing, step by step, before you even repeat again and again that I don't have proof for God existing - here goes: in concept first and foremost the creator and operator of the universe and man and everything with a beginning.

All you said was that you made up this concept of an undefined thing that can create the Universe.
Then you said, not proven, nor followed any logical path to it, but said that the Universe was created.
Hence, the creator is your undefined thing that creates the Universe.


Here, let me define The Force as that which allows telekinesis and a form of precognition.
A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, there was an organization of beings that performed telekinesis on will and could look into the future, when concentrated.
Thus The Force is real.

Did I prove that The Force exists?

Touch the semi-rigid protuberance that's in the middle of your face. Should extend from between your eyes down to almost your mouth. That's called a "nose". There, you have proof that your nose exists.
Given that most human beings have a nose, I'll be willing to take your word for it, if you were to claim that you have a nose.
But, if you tell me you have a nose with 3 nostrils, then I'd be a bit more hard pressed to believe you and would require something else in the way of evidence for it.... say a photo (one of the machines that enhance our senses).

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Learn, I won't last forever. (that's what my dad used to tell me) (I'm surprised I have to do this! you must be one of those special cases, huh?)

I'm going to hide all this because I'm using images to illustrate the sequence of events and they can be a bit large.

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