RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular?
April 6, 2017 at 5:36 am
(This post was last modified: April 6, 2017 at 5:37 am by chimp3.)
(March 31, 2017 at 12:00 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 31, 2017 at 11:15 am)Khemikal Wrote: It's not as if there is no secular foundation for such a position.
Try the UN preamble, for starters.
Recognition of inalienable human rights is not the same and having a foundation for them. It's kind of like your objections to intelligent design. Both ID and neo-Dawinists recognize the same complex systems but differ significantly on how those complex systems came to be. Wouldn't you say that ID proponents haven't adequately demonstrated that presence of a designer and that biological systems only appear to be designed? In other words, knowing "that something is" is not the same as knowing "why something is." So no, Khem, there is no secular foundation for human rights.
Claiming God's authority over reason as a foundation for inalienable rights is erroneous. First of all , your god is a fairy tale equal to the Easter Bunny. (We have been through this before.) There are secular arguments for human rights. All arguments for or against are human arguments. Just as humans created gods they reasoned out the concept of inalienable rights. The words of Jefferson are the ideas of a mammal. Nothing magic about Jeffersons argument as he was unable to apply it to his own status a slave owner. Then, let's think about who the argument for inalienable rights was lodged against : the christian kings of Europe. Those kings had a foundation for ruling over others based on a christian god's authority. When the Christian Kings/ Queens of Europe set their flags on this continent they claimed all the lands and people for Jesus. They set upon the native people like blood thirsty tyrants. Why ? They had the power to do so. I am grateful to be living in a time when the only things left for christians to set their flags on are morality and creationism. Christians have lost much power due to good secular arguments. I imagine you will lose many more arguments in the future.
Neo-Scholastic is a mammal. All of his arguments are human arguments. The basis of his arguments is largely the human imagination.
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
