(April 15, 2017 at 12:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(April 15, 2017 at 3:14 am)pocaracas Wrote: Some bit of propaganda did its job too well when people in 2017 still think that "socialist" is equivalent to "communist". I'd advise a look into European politics.
The concept is the same.
Not this shit again. First off the two economic views ARE different. Secondly neither Hitler or Stalin ruled over atheists both ruled over majority Christians and neither would have risen to power without the support of their respective masses.
Secondly it is a bullshit slur the religious right and economic top pull in falsely claiming the label "liberal" IN THE MODERN WEST are people who want to be Cuba. Cuba is NOT an atheist nation, it is a majority Catholic. Dictators don't silence just religion, they silence ANY dissent, but are willing to take any support of anyone willing to blindly obey them.
Religions never left those nations and even today Catholics are the MAJORITY in Cuba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Cuba
Majority religion in Russia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia
Not even China is religion free.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China
Religion has been a part of all those country's histories. It isn't religion those countries single out, it is dissent OF ANY KIND. Power shifts over time and all those countries were once ruled by ROYALTY but the religions have always been there and are still there. Cuba isn't a dictatorship because the majority are atheists, Cuba is a dictatorship because 1 family and one party have a monopoly on power. You call Fidel a dictator, but it still the same as a king, it still amounts to family rule, and even the politicians in Cuba and even their military HAVE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
What separates the west from those closed societies isn't religion, they have religion too. What separates us is that we have more open concepts that advocate for checks on power, the ability to hold power to account. Religion isn't doing that, our concept of protecting government from MONOPOLIES, which is what a one party state is. MONOPOLY is what a theocracy is. Family rule is what a monopoly is. Closed societies ARE NOT religion free.
The west isn't better because it has a majority Christians, it is better because our laws protect pluralism, not a social pecking order.