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Atheists becoming less unpopular?
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RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular?
(April 15, 2017 at 1:16 pm)Brian37 Wrote:
(April 15, 2017 at 12:37 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: The concept is the same.

Not this shit again. First off the two economic views ARE different. Secondly neither Hitler or Stalin ruled over atheists both ruled over majority Christians and neither would have risen to power without the support of their respective masses. 

Secondly it is a bullshit slur the religious right and economic top pull in falsely claiming the label "liberal" IN THE MODERN WEST are people who want to be Cuba. Cuba is NOT an atheist nation, it is a majority Catholic. Dictators don't silence just religion, they silence ANY dissent, but are willing to take any support of anyone willing to blindly obey them. 

Religions never left those nations and even today Catholics are the MAJORITY in Cuba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Cuba

Majority religion in Russia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Russia

Not even China is religion free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_China

Religion has been a part of all those country's histories. It isn't religion those countries single out, it is dissent OF ANY KIND. Power shifts over time and all those countries  were once ruled by ROYALTY but the religions have always been there and are still there. Cuba isn't a dictatorship because the majority are atheists, Cuba is a dictatorship because 1 family and one party have a monopoly on power. You call Fidel a dictator, but it still the same as a king, it still amounts to family rule, and even the politicians in Cuba and even their military HAVE RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. 

What separates the west from those closed societies isn't religion, they have religion too. What separates us is that we have more open concepts that advocate for checks on power, the ability to hold power to account. Religion isn't doing that, our concept of protecting government from MONOPOLIES, which is what a one party state is. MONOPOLY is what a theocracy is. Family rule is what a monopoly is. Closed societies ARE NOT religion free.

The west isn't better because it has a majority Christians, it is better because our laws protect pluralism, not a social pecking order.

And to further add to the point nope Hitler believed in god and saw the things he did as part of "his mission" .As for economics Nazism borrowed from just about every system. The idea that word socialism in the name is truthful is like saying all the countries that have taken the word Republic fit the bill . Nazism has more in common with corporatism then anything else.

As for Stalin . The Czars terrorized Russia under divine right . Stalin terrorized Russia under the" inevitability of history to which all must submit" And saw the horrors he unleashed as the inevitability. Pure mysticism no wonder he wanted to research psychic powers and all manor of other occult nonsense. As for economics Stalin was not a socialist and Stalinism  is not socialism.
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Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - March 31, 2017 at 8:32 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by ukatheist - March 31, 2017 at 8:51 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by TheRealJoeFish - March 31, 2017 at 8:53 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Longhorn - March 31, 2017 at 8:56 am
Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by ukatheist - March 31, 2017 at 8:57 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Pat Mustard - April 2, 2017 at 1:20 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by c172 - March 31, 2017 at 9:24 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by vorlon13 - March 31, 2017 at 9:31 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Regina - March 31, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by vorlon13 - March 31, 2017 at 12:31 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 8:31 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 10:59 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Regina - April 1, 2017 at 12:48 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 31, 2017 at 11:00 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 31, 2017 at 1:31 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - March 31, 2017 at 1:56 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Secular Elf - April 19, 2017 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - March 31, 2017 at 7:38 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - March 31, 2017 at 12:00 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by chimp3 - April 6, 2017 at 5:36 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by vorlon13 - March 31, 2017 at 11:56 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by paulpablo - March 31, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - March 31, 2017 at 9:02 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Aristocatt - April 2, 2017 at 1:52 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 2, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 2, 2017 at 4:29 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 2, 2017 at 4:53 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 3, 2017 at 11:38 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 3, 2017 at 11:49 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 4, 2017 at 12:05 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 5, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 5, 2017 at 11:19 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 6, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by The Valkyrie - April 4, 2017 at 12:04 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 6, 2017 at 12:26 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by AceBoogie - April 6, 2017 at 1:34 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by vorlon13 - April 6, 2017 at 10:57 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 7, 2017 at 7:17 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 14, 2017 at 7:42 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 14, 2017 at 9:16 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2017 at 11:20 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 15, 2017 at 3:34 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2017 at 8:06 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 15, 2017 at 9:57 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 16, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 15, 2017 at 7:28 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Catholic_Lady - April 8, 2017 at 11:23 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 8, 2017 at 11:41 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by dyresand - April 15, 2017 at 2:11 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by downbeatplumb - April 15, 2017 at 11:38 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Pat Mustard - April 18, 2017 at 4:22 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by downbeatplumb - April 18, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 19, 2017 at 1:40 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 1:47 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 19, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 4:14 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 19, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by pocaracas - April 19, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by pocaracas - April 15, 2017 at 3:14 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 15, 2017 at 12:37 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 15, 2017 at 1:16 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 15, 2017 at 2:22 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 15, 2017 at 3:32 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 15, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 15, 2017 at 3:56 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 15, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by pocaracas - April 15, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 15, 2017 at 10:38 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 17, 2017 at 9:36 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 17, 2017 at 9:50 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 17, 2017 at 12:54 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 17, 2017 at 1:29 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 17, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Mister Agenda - April 17, 2017 at 10:19 am
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 2:08 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by pocaracas - April 19, 2017 at 3:33 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 4:19 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 19, 2017 at 5:53 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by pocaracas - April 19, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 4:46 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Neo-Scholastic - April 19, 2017 at 5:01 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 5:54 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Brian37 - April 19, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Amarok - April 19, 2017 at 8:58 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 7:14 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by pocaracas - April 19, 2017 at 7:35 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 19, 2017 at 10:54 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by vorlon13 - April 19, 2017 at 9:04 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by vorlon13 - April 19, 2017 at 9:10 pm
RE: Atheists becoming less unpopular? - by Jehanne - April 20, 2017 at 8:42 am

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