(April 19, 2017 at 4:14 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(April 19, 2017 at 3:43 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Can you insert a tiny bit of pragmatism in this?
Someone had to make the computer you typed the words "Capitalism is destroying the word". If someone didn't think the idea of a PC up, say IBM or Bill Gates or Steve Jobs, you would not have the ability to make such an absurd argument and post it. Are you willing to give the title of your home to the government? Your private ownership of the house you live in is the RESULT of western government saying "You can own things and have your own private bank account".
Capitalism isn't destroying anything, GREED IS. The Saudi Royal Family owns oil companies. Gadaffi owned stock in GE, and even in America, assholes like Trump and the GOP think our pay gap is not hurting us and if all we do is simply bow to one class, everything will be fine.
But no, I don't want to give up my privately owned house. I don't want to give up my computer made by a private company. I do want the ability to eat a burger one day, go to a Chinese food joint the next, and hang out at a privately owned sports bar and watch my Redskins SUCK. The only thing I am against is ABUSE and the pay gap, not private ownership of anything.
Most of the fundamental discovers that lead to computers and coffee makers came out of the not-for-profit Academy, the scientific establishment within Universities and a small number of their peers who worked at the mostly-not-for-profit labs, such as the largely now-defunct AT&T Bell Labs. And, so, even without capitalism, technology would have still developed, perhaps a little more slowly, but developed it would have, likely, without nuclear bombs & warheads.
Yes, the answer is World Socialism but Humanity is a long, long way from that one! And, it will likely take World War III for folks to realize that, at least those who survive the process.
It depends on what you mean by "socialism". I warn you to be careful with that word. America has actually ALWAYS been a social country. The first Amendment is a call to neutrality and anti monopoly. It took even longer after the signing of the constitution to extend rights to more, but the pay gap issue and market issue didn't really get fixed until after WW2 when most Amercains finally realized the old "you are on your own" and "fuck you I got mine" prior economics that caused the great depression didn't work.
I don't want America to become Cuba or Stalin's Russia or North Korea. Our species is already "social" that is why we form groups. I simply don't think economics has to be all government run or all private sector. I do think globally however, the world's rich, in all nations, both friend and foe, have way too much power. But I don't think you'll ever end the private sector.