(April 19, 2017 at 5:54 pm)Jehanne Wrote:(April 19, 2017 at 5:35 pm)Khemikal Wrote: ....okay, if you say so, but-
-how is socialism going to provide those goods and services?
The same way that your local government provides you with police and fire services.
(April 19, 2017 at 5:53 pm)Brian37 Wrote: [quote pid='1543024' dateline='1492633176']
Neither capitalism or socialism are good or bad, what is bad is greed can create a monopoly out of BOTH. Un rules by selling his utopia that if you just obey him he will give you what you need. HE is a capitalist too. I only agree that we as a species need to think long term and not make the quick buck the default. In America one party and the top class, even though we have more checks on power, have been winning elections by selling the utopia that only the top know what they are doing.
It boils down to greed for power in both extremes and it always takes money to create that monopoly and maintain that monopoly.
Globally speaking both friend and foe think like a cheetah, everyone supports their economy thinking speed is the key and both friend and foe, open and closed societies depend upon a top class to compete in the global market. I only agree that you cant consume your way to prosperity and yes, the competition is at the top to exploit, not make things easier on workers. But that includes closed societies too. Un has far more people in poverty and still is rich and invests in the global market.
Capitalism is worse:
As more and more people decide that they want the "good life," more and more countries will turn to Western capitalism (in particular, the United States), which will render our World unable to support human life. Everyone will be dead soon after; I do not see how anyone could call such an economic system "good". Donald Trump is a capitalist, albeit, a somewhat unsuccessful one, but a capitalist nonetheless.
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So this is universally peer reviewed link accepted by major media as well, or is this a right wing think tank website cooking the numbers to support burning oil?
Exactly how could Canada produce more CO2 than either America or China considering they have a smaller population, especially smaller than China which is at 1 billion? And why would it matter if friend or foe do that, the world needs to get off of burning fossil fuels? So are you saying oppressive states like China or North Korea are more humane when it comes to human rights than Canada? I call bullshit on this link.