RE: French Presidential elections
April 24, 2017 at 10:44 am
(This post was last modified: April 24, 2017 at 10:46 am by pocaracas.)
(April 24, 2017 at 10:38 am)Isis Wrote:(April 24, 2017 at 10:25 am)pocaracas Wrote: Yeah, yeah... the old us vs them tribal thing that humans still carry around in their genes...
Jesus.
I support immigration. I want to move country myself one day but I don't think the EU should be working towards the United States of Europe. They have got enough power over member states as it is.
(April 24, 2017 at 10:25 am)pocaracas Wrote: I like the concept of the global village, where each person can go anywhere on Earth and live and work, without needing to deal with certain regions' claim on the person... where each region does retain it's individual qualities, most of them borne out of geography and climate, and can also easily interact with other regions for trade.
One centralized governmental body would make it oh so much easier to properly implement environmentally sound regulations, everywhere... no need to worry that the neighbor is going to be producing cheaper stuff because they don't have to answer to some regulatory body.
And a myriad other things like tax havens, exchange rates, etc etc etc etc....
Sure, some things would be more complex... but overall I think things would be better for the whole of humanity.
Cool, but you're too idealistic and setting yourself up for some pretty major disappointment. A one world government with open borders everywhere is never going to happen.
Trust me, I would just love to be able to enter the US or Japan and start working without needing to go through immigration systems but it just wouldn't work. Borders are not tribalistic.
Why wouldn't it work?
It's been working fine in the EU for decades.
I'm well aware that it won't happen within my lifetime... most likely, not even within my grandchildren's lifetime... but it would represent a step in the right direction for mankind.
Btw, it's not the borders that are tribalistic, it's the countries!

(April 24, 2017 at 10:40 am)vorlon13 Wrote: I don't see the French EU issue being a binary choice; stay or go.
How about the EU cut WAY back on the bloat, administrative redundancy, waste, administrative bloat, overhead, redundancy, administrative idiocy, redundancy, waste, and administrative bloat ???
A smooth running, efficient and taut EU might even get Britain back in the fold. If the EU was managed well enough leaving becomes unthinkable for the members, then the members won't think about leaving.
Sheeesh!! Is this so fucking hard to noodle out ??
HAHA, haven't you heard of Administratium?
https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/administ.htm
Quote:The heaviest element known to science was recently discovered by investigators at a major U.S. research university. The element, tentatively named administratium, has no protons or electrons and thus has an atomic number of 0. However, it does have one neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons and 111 assistant vice neutrons, which gives it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons.
Since it has no electrons, administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes in contact with. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of administratium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than a second.
Administratium has a normal half-life of approximately three years, at which time it does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganization in which assistant neutrons, vice neutrons and assistant vice neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that the atomic mass actually increases after each reorganization.
Research at other laboratories indicates that administratium occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points such as government agencies, large corporations, and universities. It can usually be found in the newest, best appointed, and best maintained buildings.
Scientists point out that administratium is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reaction where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how administratium can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising.