French Presidential elections

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Keep out the troublemakers?
Tell me, what do you do with the troublemakers that are born in your country?
In a unified global "state", they'd get the same treatment they get nowadays... seems obvious.

Don't kid yourself, the threat of foreign terrorism is very real. I understand that troublemakers are born here, but it is a ridiculous argument.

"Terrorists are here too! Abolish your borders!"

Literally nobody is saying that we should just halt immigration and seal the borders. This conversation is not going to get anywhere. You have your opinions, and I have mine. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you about a world government all evening.

You're the one who brought up the terrorists.
I'm not saying it's an argument for the abolishment of borders.... it's just not an argument against it... or rather, it's a false argument.
It's scaremongering and.... again... fostering of the tribal mentality.

I know I'm not supposed to provide a viable solution to that scenario, but I'm sure far more qualified people would, at the time, present their options.
As for my opinion, the large "country" should focus on doing its best so that it presents itself as a very welcome partner.

Why would invasion or sanctioning be required? Such terminology only goes to show the tribal nature of how people think - war or withdrawal of resources as a way to force others to abide by "our" rules.

You really are a smug asshole at times, aren't you?

Yes, I am.

There are more ways than one to create a worldwide governing body. Surely the transition from our current situation to such a state will be filled with difficulties... and many will be due to misuse of power... but if the process starts, it's a mistake to then go back and break up a union.

Calling everyone tribalists while somehow thinking you're superior. The large country presenting itself as a "very welcome partner" is still no guarantee that other nations would sign up.

No, it's not.
Why would you suppose I said anything like that?

It sounds like a stepping stone to a totalitarian government to me. I am just thankful that it will never happen, the tide is changing. People want their sovereignty and that doesn't make them tribalists.

yeah... a worldwide totalitarian government!! of course, it won't have a constitution (or equivalent), nor some sort of regional representative bodies, nor anything that you may already find in any country, nowadays.... it'll be Mao's China all over... of course.

Scaremongering. That's what you're doing.

A country is just a large tribe. Tribalism - Nationalism... call it what you may... same thing!

Again, as I mentioned earlier, it sounds like an excellent idea in theory, though but it is unrealistic for it to work on a global basis.

Unrealistic on the short-to-mid time scale, yes.
On a long time scale, it's completely feasible.

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Back on to the topic at hand, I just can't see Le Pen winning. I think if the EU continues to go down the path it is, then a eurosceptic party will definitely win in the future but not right now.

And what path is that that the EU is continuing to go down?