...And then there are the days He is silent.

[Drich]

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Then the dreaded finance part. first thing she asked for checks (before me wife had even come back. it was obvious we had an envelope on the table and it had checks in it and one was a cashiers check) So I played dumb as I was trying to motion my wife back into the room. the loan lady reaches for the check and pushes them towards me telling me to check in here I do. I said two checks she asked for the amounts, I gave them to her and she said that's what I'm looking for... I'm like wuuuut??? But I did not say anything and just waited for Trich.

She comes through the door looking at me and shakes her head, then sees the loan lady with the two checks and start to go into a song and dance we had practice, and I was like hold on Trich. mrs. so an so, was going to tell us how we are paid up on EVERYTHING.. Then she goes though the hold contract/costs, and it comes back with a +balance of 8,000.00 Meaning.... Someone? Paid. the down payment. on our home. match what we put in and filled in the rest!!!!

They have no idea who just that it's paid. My mom dad and her mom (plus our guys/employees and you 'good people') are the only ones who know we were closing on our house today and knew we did not have the money.

Idk what to say. I knew God would come through... but not like this I guess there is still tons I don't know. Or maybe one of you came through I truly dn't know. I do have paper work that shows me owning the money in the builder's contract and I show a positive balance in the closing construction contract. This is such a big deal for us. it takes off so much weight of gearing up for the summer and in the way of getting the house and fence we wanted.

If any of you ever want to see the paper work I'll show you...

The salesman said he got the paper work a few days ahead of us and saw what he thought was an error, but did not want to get our hopes up. he said he has no idea how what or why this happened. nothing like it has ever happened in the 20+ years he had been there. but it's all legit.

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First two: Is this what I think it is, intentional deception?

yup.

Apparently you believe your god is OK with this.

Yup

Or OK as long as it's applied to people of lesser faith. 

Yuuup

Did Jesus ever ask a question he did not already know the answer to? Good example is the last supper. Jesus did all of the things I did here in this example. He played dumb as to who would eventually betray him. He even put people off as when directly asked.

It wasn't because they were nessarily of lessor faith. (even though they all would proove to be (except John) it simply wasn't their time to know. Much like the woman I was dealing with, It wasn't her time to know till my wife got back so we could go through the experience together.

That said a song and dance simply refers to a rehearsed narrative. although rehearsed narratives do not have to be honest ours was. (It was basically everything I told you here.) But, if you want to call that a deception I'll gladly be your deceiver, and also point to Christ redirection into the Lord's supper as being a prepared speech rather than directly answer the questions being asked.

Third and fourth: Someone paid is correct, not god.

Actually no one paid as the balance due has not changed. We went back to try and discover what happened last night. We have contract (preclosing with all the bells and whistles we wanted designed into our house and we owed 275,xxx (whatever the FDA loan max amount was for that county) and we had to pay the balance. The balance which did include the well, septic 14K in impact fees, 2800' linear a fence, two gates, 2 acre land clearing, electric hook up, 1500ft of drive way and 5 dump truck loads of dirt grading and landscaping. All of that was extra. That plus the land was our down payment. We were asked to pay 1/2 p front. and the other 1/2 at closing. (about 8000) We took the money and invested it into vans to sell. Rather than miss the beginning of the busy season. We went to closing without the 8K (after being told last Saturday to make sure we put the 8K in a cashiers check) Then when discussing what was owed with the lender to close, we now owe nothing. Matter of fact we have a 8K credit. I asked how did it go from an 8K bill to an 8K credit, the lady we spoke with did not know. We spoke to the sales man, he double check. It's all legit and He did not know. He said I've been doing this for 20+ years and this is the first time this has ever happened!

Our loan amount did not change.
It is still the max 275,xxx
Our incidententals (the list of crap not in the home morgage) did not change, we are getting everything we wanted (plus 8k more) Actually this is after I up graded to a 2hp well pump and red wire top galvanized steel fencing, and added an inch to the drive way.

Fifth: How do you know it's not an error and now you are stealing from someone.

We asked. it's been double checked for 3 days. We were supposed to be there first saturday, then tuesday and then finally again wed @10. They reschedualed not us.

Why did you not ask who paid the money?

because I like you knew where it came from. I just do not have a problem admitting it.

I'm sure that they can tell you. Or is it OK as long as you believe the blissful ignorance of god did it?

I asked what is this credit and what happens to the money if we do not spend it on construction. One they do not know as nothing has changed, and two it gets applied into the actual loan amount the FDA's 275K

You come across as just another miracle testifier where no miracle actually exists.

Again sport miracles are not for others. they are for the one who the miracle was done for. they are the result often time of weathering the wind and rain I spoke about in the OP, and as a reward get rewarded. I am simply sharing whatever happened with in a day or so of things happening. I knew something 'good' would happen, but did not know what. I was hoping just for the obvious, and was blown out of the water with this! Again I say I am nothing special as God has promised this type of life for each one of us!

Imagine how much different your life would be if things like this happened on a fairly regular basis.

If anything, it's another humans compassion which is not miraculous. 

Then it was one of you. My dad is retired and on a very fixed income, which is being consumed by his medical. Her mom is in the same boat (will have to move in with us eventually) She is to shamed to ask her dad for anything.. couldn't have been the salesman, that leaves the builder or one of you.

Stimbo? faith no more??? did you Go off and find you some Jesus while I wasn't looking??? Holy Crap I figured it out! it was Minnie! he just spend 16K to make me go on and on about God and now he will jack in the box out of left field and claim to have paid this money!!! Oh the shame!!!

If someone paid it was ne of you! Because no one else knew. The shame factor and probability of failure was so high we knew we had lost everything going into this one! So we didn't tell anyone outside of who we though could help, or with you who we could help.

Now backing up to a previous post you, mentioned a "fully lived life". Would you tell me exactly what this is. Or is this just another christian judgement that non believers are always unfulfilled.

That's what you non-desit a-holes are longing for right? a life so long and morally lived it gives you an enlightenment/ deistic preview over everything in this realm. Like a renaissance man who's life is so well live he ends at the door step of omniscience.

I was asking can you live a life so completely, that if in your travels you do not discover God, God can not exist? Does a full life = any degree of omniscience?

Then the obvious question... Who are you to judge what you know nothing about?

You spend a life refusing to look where God tell you to find Him, and because God on His own authority will not otherwise seek you out or have anything to do with someone who will not look where commanded. Pretend that God can not exist because he is not where you are...