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Why are people so affraid of anarchy?
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy?
(September 9, 2017 at 8:22 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(September 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm)paulpablo Wrote: The proposal is that there would be an organization a bit like an insurance company, when you both enter a contract you both do so with the help of a dispute resolution organization which you both agree upon.

And what, exactly, keeps that company from taking money from the both of you and not answering the phone?

(September 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm)paulpablo Wrote: Right now you have the police who uphold the law and they are a government agency, the idea in anarchy is that people voluntarily pay for law and order to be upheld in their community instead of the police being paid for by forced taxation.

I'm sure that will result in voluntary handouts surpassing the obligations we now face as citizens. No doubt the generosity of human spirit  will fund not only police enforcing non-existent laws (because remember, we're talking about no government, no legislature, no laws), but will also help to pay for roads, firehouses, ambulances, and so on.

You cannot have your cake and eat it too. A "dispute resolution organization" could just as easily be a scam and you'd be none the wiser, taking your money and moving on. Explain why this is a different organization than, you know, a government. At least with a government, I've got firefighters willing to put their asses on the line to save my son or wife.

I'm of the opinion that so-called "anarchists" are folks who like what they have and want more, but don't understand that there ain't any free ride.

Yeh there's lots of questions to be asked.  But if we pretend we were starting a society from scratch you can ask the same question about a government.  America has a stable government, relatively speaking.  But you have situations in places with a less stable government where they do just take off with citizens money.

You could say ok so why should we trust a government? Even when talking about America, why should we trust a government?  They (governments in general) have a history of genocide, colonization, enslavement.  What if we give all our tax dollars to a government leader and they decide to take off, they decide to use the money on wars that make no sense, they decide to bomb the worlds poorest countries, they decide to use intelligence agencies to fund future terrorists.

That's not to say I think anarchy is a cure for this, I can't answer every "what if" question there is in relation to anarchy or a government.  I'm pretty happy living under a government that's all I know.

What I disagree with is the insistence there can be no laws in anarchy, and no one would pay for firemen or soldiers.  I think the system might be worse, possibly, but it's not impossible that law systems or that some sort of emergency service couldn't exist.


Are you ready for the fire? We are firemen. WE ARE FIREMEN! The heat doesn’t bother us. We live in the heat. We train in the heat. It tells us that we’re ready, we’re at home, we’re where we’re supposed to be. Flames don’t intimidate us. What do we do? We control the flame. We control them. We move the flames where we want to. And then we extinguish them.

Impersonation is treason.





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Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by FlatAssembler - September 7, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Minimalist - September 7, 2017 at 2:52 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Chad32 - September 7, 2017 at 2:53 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by LastPoet - September 7, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by brewer - September 7, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Minimalist - September 7, 2017 at 3:23 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by brewer - September 7, 2017 at 3:40 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 7, 2017 at 5:27 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jackalope - September 7, 2017 at 5:34 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 7, 2017 at 5:37 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 6:20 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by brewer - September 7, 2017 at 5:44 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jackalope - September 7, 2017 at 6:21 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 6:41 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 5:40 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 7, 2017 at 5:51 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 6:02 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 7, 2017 at 6:09 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jackalope - September 7, 2017 at 6:19 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 7, 2017 at 6:40 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jackalope - September 7, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 8, 2017 at 11:39 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jackalope - September 8, 2017 at 1:27 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Pat Mustard - September 9, 2017 at 4:14 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 6:23 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Athene - September 7, 2017 at 3:31 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 7, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by KevinM1 - September 7, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by paulpablo - September 7, 2017 at 4:10 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 4:25 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by FlatAssembler - September 7, 2017 at 4:13 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 7, 2017 at 7:13 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Anomalocaris - September 7, 2017 at 7:30 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 7, 2017 at 7:52 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy - by Thumpalumpacus - September 8, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jackalope - September 7, 2017 at 4:31 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by FlatAssembler - September 7, 2017 at 4:37 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Joods - September 9, 2017 at 7:31 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Crossless2.0 - September 9, 2017 at 8:59 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by KevinM1 - September 7, 2017 at 4:38 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by brewer - September 7, 2017 at 6:06 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Jello - September 7, 2017 at 6:45 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by FlatAssembler - September 8, 2017 at 9:03 am
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Divinity - September 8, 2017 at 9:39 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by paulpablo - September 9, 2017 at 4:14 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by FlatAssembler - September 8, 2017 at 9:53 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by FlatAssembler - September 8, 2017 at 10:04 am
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Catholic_Lady - September 9, 2017 at 11:05 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 8, 2017 at 5:08 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by paulpablo - September 8, 2017 at 4:32 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by paulpablo - September 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 9, 2017 at 8:22 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 9, 2017 at 9:02 pm
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RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Thumpalumpacus - September 10, 2017 at 8:11 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by The Grand Nudger - September 10, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Why are people so affraid of anarchy? - by Amarok - September 10, 2017 at 2:17 am
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