Coveny’s plan for health care

[The Grand Nudger]

Private medical does cover everything,

Tell that to people whose private insurance doesn't cover this or that, and only covers what it covers in it's approved network of providers.  This is the mothership calling, it's time to come back in.

and you are being dishonest when you imply private insurance and medical care is just for elective treatments and red carpet service. Here are a couple of posts on the topic:
USA Today - https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countri...ealth-care

People die on our waiting lists as well.

Huffington Past - https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/can...570d3778ff

See, they have universal healthcare -and- private options.

CJ - https://www.city-journal.org/html/ugly-t...13032.html

You mean her insurance didn;t cover everything.....gee, that sounds familiar.

New York Times - http://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/30/us/can...wanted=all

This one is such a hack peice I don't think that further comment is required.

Forbes - https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapotheca...e30d8e78d5

This one is amusing in that it goes to length to explain that long waits (the thrust of many of the above peices) aren;t somehow a necessarry or unavoidable consequence of universal healthcare..that they're an abberation of that norm.

Are you done spamming me?  Did you ever hear me say that we should copy the canadian system?  I'm sure it could use improvement, and so are canadians..thankfully, the US is in a position to make those improvements (and I;d be pissed if we let fucking Canadia beat us at something...Murica!).  None of the frightful scenarios above are representative of how the majority of oop medical expenses pan out in canada..and you can do the simplest google search to figure that out for yourself.  Let wonder lead you to knowledge.

You admitted to EMT, Paramedics, and non-doctors giving shots, now you attempt to backpedal. These are effective breaking in positions to the medical profession in your opinion, so stop acting like anything less than a full fledged doctor is some backwoods no teeth guy with a glue gun.

-and they would still perform those services under universal care...the difference being that under universal care..no one would have to go see Cletus for the crime of being poor.  I'm still not interested in your "breaking in" to medicine.  You wanna be a doctor?  Go to fucking school.  Can't arrange that in your life or finances?  The problem isn't our healthcare system, then....  Just couldn't make the grade?  Then you don't have any business opening people up. Not in a tier 5 hospital, not in a tier 1 hospital.

If you wanted to buy a produce collective bargaining works awesome. When the produce (humans) can choose not to bargain with you, it doesn't work so well. This is why universal healthcare has so many problems. And until we can create a robot to do the work of a medical professional, it will continue to be a service, NOT a product.

Strange, since it seems to work despite your protestations. It's part of how insurance companies profit in the first place, by bargaining their network of service providers down on volume over rate.

In the most charitable assessment, you're a person with some npotion that there are people who could provide medical care at a lower cost.... who want to, but through laws and regulations, find themselves barred from doing so. Fine, I get that. Thing is, there's a more direct answer to that than creating substandard tier based medicine. Other problem is that for a great many people, you just couldn't make medical care affordable enough no matter how bad you shittified it in the process. Those people would still need someone to pay your substandard bottom tier doctors for them. The middle class would still find that an unexpected medical emergency bankrupted them. I'm out of this one completely, I have full VA and my family is fortunate enough to have the money to buy a good plan and come out of pocket on top of that. Beyond that we have property and assets to sell that we could sell..and still not be homeless. I want everyone to have access to the same standard and range of care and treatment that I have. I can understand and see clearly that the problems we have with our healthcare system aren't going to be solved by lowering our standards.