(February 7, 2018 at 1:06 am)Godscreated Wrote:(February 6, 2018 at 9:12 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Who's pretending he doesn't exist?
I honestly, truthfully, don't believe in your god. Indeed, I think he's fiction. My question had to do with the Christian mentality of willful surrender, and how it's viewed as an admirable trait/state of being. I doubt I'll ever truly understand it, but I'm willing to try. Not because I want to believe (again, I'm utterly convinced your god isn't real), but because I'm trying to better understand the people who do.
Finally, I've always been incredibly honest about my lack of belief and my motivations for being here. It's not my problem that you're somehow incapable of believing me. Maybe you should take a page out of my book and actually attempt to at least somewhat understand the people you're talking to? Or are you too prideful to man up yourself?
I have accepted Christ and know He is real and no one could ever convince me other wise, I've experienced Him on a level that is undeniable. I have come to better understand atheist, that's why I have stayed so long. You may truly believe that God isn't real, but that doesn't mean He isn't. My experiences are personal but within those experiences God has proved to me that He is who He says He is leaving me nothing to do but accept His existence. I've yet to see any atheist bring forth any information to show God doesn't exist, I've seen multitudes of excuses and because of that I said that atheist pretend He doesn't exist. I can't pretend and wouldn't because I would be denying truth and that is an unacceptable thing to do, truth is a precious thing, this God has taught me in a awesome way.
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And I am speaking from what I believe to be the truth. I believe you have deluded yourself. The experiences you have had were NOT of God, but were, instead, a type of brain fart. After that, you get confirmation bias.
I also will not deny the truth: that there is no evidence for a God. That, to me, is quite sufficient reason to not believe in a God. To deny that is perverse, in my view.
As for Jesus being your Lord: you are, in essence, deciding to be a child. You pawn your moral decisions off on another being. But even if that being is beneficent, your refusal of moral responsibility is not. The adoption of a Lord is, in and of itself, an immoral act. Yes, even if that creature is your creator.
Think about it the other way around. Suppose humans manage to create artificial intelligences with their own 'free will'. Would you want these intelligences to *worship* us? I certainly HOPE not. To even *ask* for worship makes one unworthy of it. And to worship makes the worshiper unworthy of respect. It is *inherently* degrading to adopt a dictator, even if that dictator is your creator.
