RE: God does not determine right and wrong
February 9, 2018 at 12:48 pm
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2018 at 12:56 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The same thing it means in any other context. That there are moral statements that refer to facts..and if those facts are true..then the moral statements are as well. It's not really a complicated concept...but it often seems to be due to the excessive amount of baggage we've attached to it, and the vast and pernicious misapprehensions that we collectively hold regarding the concept itself.
For example..the running argument on these boards between atheists and theists commonly reduces to theists asserting that there can be no moral facts in the absence of their god. On the other side of the aisle, we have the insistence that differences of opinion somehow make any such facts non-existent.
Both positions are wrong, because both assertions are an irrelevance to any objective morality. Nevertheless, the argument stretches on under it's own steam never approaching the subject that the disagreement purportedly addresses. It exists solely as a proxy for another disagreement.
For example..the running argument on these boards between atheists and theists commonly reduces to theists asserting that there can be no moral facts in the absence of their god. On the other side of the aisle, we have the insistence that differences of opinion somehow make any such facts non-existent.
Both positions are wrong, because both assertions are an irrelevance to any objective morality. Nevertheless, the argument stretches on under it's own steam never approaching the subject that the disagreement purportedly addresses. It exists solely as a proxy for another disagreement.
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