RE: Florida House Panel votes to arm teachers; Give 1 time $500 bonus for 132 hour course
March 1, 2018 at 1:02 pm
(This post was last modified: March 1, 2018 at 1:31 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 1, 2018 at 11:20 am)Whateverist Wrote:There's no effective difference, to a school shooting, between an ar-15 and a similarly chambered handgun....except for the fact that a pistol gives you better corners, is easier to conceal, and far cheaper. Both, at least in the case of the majority of owership, are semi-auto sporting pieces..neither are "assault rifles". I would...however, if I were the hypothetical teacher volunteering to play bullet sponge against some unhinged kid..demand that I be provided with both the license and the funds to field an -actual- assault rifle (I'm a junkie....I'd demand my 249 with a 200 round bando and shortened stock), as well as a full kevlar skirt, flashbangs, a mask, and cs canisters....if I wanted to go popping rounds off at a person with a pistol or an ar-15. It would be the apocalypse for a minute or two...but mostly for the jackass with the target rifle. Drop cans and proceed directly to target under suppressing fire then beat him over the head ith the 28 lb heft of my preferred piece as he chokes on the gas. You burn your hands on the barrel in the grip after the suppress, but it's worth it. Before anyone thinks I'm being ridiculous, consider the backlash when anyone suggests that cops don't need tactical superiority. If we're asking teachers to be volunteer cops in surprise school shooting scenarios..how do we tell them they cant up-arm like police? Down this road lies my fetish in riot gear and crowd control. I offer my account of a short skirmish between a properly armed combatant and an active shooter as a window into the terminus of this notion. The scene of some future school shooting will..if we give a shiot about those teachers, someday involve a man covered head to toe in kevlar deploying chemical weapons and an absurd rate of fire down the hallways of our local schools..in response to some jackass teen with his uncles "borrowed" fetish gun.(March 1, 2018 at 11:11 am)wallym Wrote: 1) You'd have to get all those guns you consider 'assault rifles' off the streets. Which is going to be tough, since there are already plenty of illegally owned 'assault rifles' on the streets, and the issue of resistance for legally owned 'assault rifles.'
2) If you hypothetically were able to remove all the 'assault rifles' from the country, we'll still have another school shooting. The kid will just be murdering people with a handgun or two.
So your objections are amount to 1) the problem is too difficult and 2) incremental improvement isn't worth doing. So you're saying what? Just stick to the status quo and buy the child size body bags in bulk?
So, to my mind, they;re gonna have to up that stipend by a few grand to get anyone with half a brain and the right skills and experience interested, instead of the usual good guy yokel with a fuckin gun who's gonna shoot a bunch of kids trying to shoot the kid shooting kids..or..more likely, just get fucking shot themselves. The more you really think about it the worse the idea is, really. Consider this, whateves. I bet you and I both went to a schoolhouse made of either brick, cinder, or adobe/stucco. They don;t build em like that anymore. It's a bunch of portables. Bullets flying in not one, but two directions in a flimsy building full of children..one person all fucked up..the other armed with a cheap ass taurus revolver and a soft flak vest, at best, @ 500bucks.
What...the....fuck.....whatever happened to metal detectors? How many wands does five hundo buy? Go with that. We don't even put guys with guns in schools in warzones............. Outside, sure, at entrance checkpoints.....but it's a fundamentally bad idea to increase the amount of firearms and hypothetically active shooters inside of a building chock full of children.
I went to school in florida, my family are floridian educators, by and large. Now..though..."land of flowers" my ass. The place is full of cabbages.
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