RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 9, 2018 at 12:15 pm
(March 9, 2018 at 3:41 am)Godscreated Wrote: I do not claim to be better than you, my claim is this, I'm saved through Christ by the grace of God.
I reject that claim. I believe your god to be mythical, salvation to be mythical, and Christ to be either mythical or 2000 years dead.
Quote:I have made no threat, if you take it that way then that's your fault and apparently it bothers you greatly, ever wonder why. I'm telling you what the Bible says, besides how is it I can threaten you when God is the one in control.
Your making excuses for your own bad behaviour, refusing to take responsibility for uttering threats, is the hallmark of an abusive person. I deeply pity anyone who is unfortunate enough to get romantically involved with you.
Quote:It's your right to have that opinion, but I don't think it's worth much especially because it takes a truly despicable person to say what you did in the next sentence.
Not nearly as despicable as a god that would imprison people in hell for eternity. I'm just holding up a mirror to you, giving you a taste of your own medicine.
It is rather unpleasant and infuriating to be told by a total stranger that unless you take a specific action (in your case, demanding that we worship your imaginary friend), one is going to come to some sort of harm. I want you to feel that unpleasantness at a visceral level so that you can appreciate firsthand the rotten fruits of your preaching.
Quote:I desire nothing but good for you whether you deserve it or not and that is the truth.
Your idea of "good" is my idea of agony. I don't want to spend eternity with some bastard god that thinks eternal punishment is justice, because eternity is a long time for me to weep for the people in hell.
Quote:You've wished nothing but trouble for me for quite some time now because I care enough to witness to you and others about Jesus and I do it without malice (bullying). You can not find one sentence in any of my post where I've bullied anyone, you might see because you want too things I've said you would consider bullying, but as long as I tell you and others what the Bible says by necessity it isn't bullying.
Your excuse is rejected. If *I* think you are a bully, then in my eyes you *are* a bully. The only thing you can do to change that perception that I have of you is for you to apologize and cease the behaviours that I perceive as bullying.
Quote:I've had troubles in my life but none of it has nor will it ever be because you wished it, it will be my making or just things that happen in life...
And I want you to cause yourself to fail, as payback for your threats, so that you smarten the fuck up.
Quote:... And I foresee and at least I have God there to help me through those thing, He has always done so and I know He will continue to because He is faithful in His promises.
I know enough ex-Christians to know that your faith can literally vanish overnight, with no apparent reason. If it can happen to them, it can happen to you.
Quote:I really do not understand why you even reply to my posts, you always get upset and you shouldn't do that to yourself, it is not healthy.
Why do I reply to you? Because, in my opinion, you are propagating what I see as an evil and destructive belief. It has been demonstrated on many occasions that a substantial number of people who were indoctrinated into the hell myth as children go on to suffer chronic psychological trauma that impacts their quality of life (and also their physical health, due to the effects of chronic stress and anxiety on the neuroendocrine system).
If I could wish for anything, anything it all, it would be to change laws worldwide so that frightening children and vulnerable adults with threats of hell became a felony punishable by prison time.
I will continue to challenge you until you stop using hell as a tool in your proselytizing toolbox. It certainly isn't causing anyone to love or worship your alleged god, and if I were your god I would feel quite insulted by your tactics. If gods actually do exist, I trust that they are sane and reasonable beings who would never resort to such things as hell. For all your talk of being led by the Holy Spirit, it sure sounds like you're doing the work of Satan instead.