RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 12, 2018 at 11:02 am
(This post was last modified: March 12, 2018 at 11:05 am by Drich.)
(March 7, 2018 at 2:01 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(March 7, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Drich Wrote: Proof is not for any of to give. All any of us can do it tell you where and how to find it. GOD Himself provides the proof. Once you find that/once you know what it is you are looking for, nothing for you can deny who/what God is.
Sounds like the ideal setup for becoming a victim of confirmation bias. Probably because it is.
What if said proof points you into a completely different direction?
Apart of my proof came in a 180* different view of Hell. I only knew a version of Dante' inferno, came to find out I experenced a completely different version of Hell. so much so I almost dismissed the whole experience, till I started reading the bible. Then began to read descriptions of Hell that I experienced months or even years prior.
(March 7, 2018 at 5:23 pm)drfuzzy Wrote:(March 7, 2018 at 1:43 pm)Drich Wrote: Your system of 'proof' work no other way/make no logical sense other than being an obstical for God to over come and then/thereby be subjegated to 'science' thus proving He is not God.
Think about it in what trial is not eye witness testimony invalid? in what court is the eye witness testimony by billions thrown out and laught at?
Then a demand made that in order to prove an all powerful God subjugate Himself to the confines and limitation/predictable reactions to prodding and testing of small minded 'science' would thus disqualify him as being all powerful since He has made the declaration that He will hide himself from those who seek to discover God on those terms.
Proof is not for any of to give. All any of us can do it tell you where and how to find it. GOD Himself provides the proof. Once you find that/once you know what it is you are looking for, nothing for you can deny who/what God is.
A book of silly, flawed fairy tales is not proof. Stories told by con men and witch doctors is not proof. "Eye-witness testimony" contained in an old book of fairy tales is not "eye-witness". (Now, if you had a few dozen texts from Roman, Greek, and Jewish historians written in the year 32-ish, that might have some value. These have not been found.) Personal stories about god go in the same category as personal stories about being abducted by aliens. If people pray to experience something hard enough, most people will experience something and attribute it to - whatever they were told to expect. I need more substantive proof. If there is an all-powerful deity that actually wants humans to know of its existence, then it is quite capable of providing clear proof that cannot be mistaken for human fantasy and story telling.
How are you a doctor of anything??
Eye witness in the billions does not mean the few who live with Christ. I'm speaking of the billions of people who came after and witness and experienced Christ and or the Holy Spirit on a personal level as I have.
Despite what you guys think God is active and alive in HIS Churches.