RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 15, 2018 at 6:10 pm
(This post was last modified: March 15, 2018 at 6:15 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 15, 2018 at 5:37 pm)He lives Wrote: I've heard that one before. However, I was referring to what seems obvious to me, and that is that consciousness is not of the body.That's what seems obvious to you? Obvious on grounds of what?
Quote:Our thoughts do not come from random electrical impulses in the brain.IKR, they come from random nothings in the nothing! Literally no one who describes consciousness as a product of the brain is telling you that it comes from random electrical impulses, lol.
Quote:Neither did our bodies come about by random acts of nature.Your in luck here...again..because evolutionary biology does not assert that your body came about by random "acts of nature"...either.
Quote: It was designed just like a Boeing 747.Obviously not -just- like a boeing 747. People designed those...we probably didn't design life, lol. Further, 747s aren't born. They don't have heritable attributes to pass on, along with mutations, to the offspring they never have. So...regardless of what it is you believe..or what you're trying to express with this tired ass comment...what's "obvious"..as in actually obvious and not obviously an article of your faith..is that our bodies didn't come about by any process even remotely like the one that gave us a 747.
Because of this...the fact that a 747 is designed has absolutely nothing to say about our bodies or how we came to possess them as they are.
Quote:Nature had billions of years to design a 747, but it didn't.It couldn't.......so.......that's hardly surprising.
Quote: Our bodies are much more complicated than a 747. There is a big problem with nature did it.Sure...horrendously complicated. Perhaps needlessly complicated. Piles and piles and piles of accumulated systems and divergence. There are tons of big problems -because- "nature did it". I mean...that or your tinkergod is a massive fuckup and perpetual underachiever that couldn't engineer so much as a 747 (never quite got around to that one..did he...that was our baby).....despite having eternity from eternity and all the power in the universe with which to do so. The pinnacle of his creation being substantially less well engineered than a 747 in the first place - but we're working on it..so we might cover for his ass again.
Your call.
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