RE: What beliefs would we consider reasonable for a self proclaimed Christian to hold?
March 18, 2018 at 8:37 am
(This post was last modified: March 18, 2018 at 8:41 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(March 17, 2018 at 11:40 pm)Banned Wrote:(March 17, 2018 at 11:23 pm)The Gentleman Bastard Wrote: A better example, do you believe that if sodium and chlorine come into contact they will lie inert until your gawd kick starts the chemical reaction? Fact, busted.
Chemicals were designed and made by God to have specific activities.
If you want to give an example of something which creates, organizes or assembles itself, do not use God's creation.
I have mentioned that already.
So...here's the trouble.
If you accept that these chemicals have "specific activities"...it doesn't matter much whether you think goddidit. If chemicals have "specific activities" -however- they ended up that way is all the explanation required for why things made of chemicals have "specific activities". If you want to add "godidit" to the list..fine, but you'll have to show a god. Until then..the rest of us will posit that the "specific activities" account for self assembly..for example..in life, and your acceptance of those "specific activites" is acknowledgement that the chemicals can self assemble.
Could have been pixies, or the loch ness monster, or maybe it;s just a brute fact...but no matter what that answer is, you've already acknowledged the point of contention and made "god" incidental in the process. One of any number of ways or reasons for some state of affairs x..but, once that state of affairs exists..there's no need of reference to the incidental anymore. Regardless of whether goddidit, it were brute fact, or if the loch ness monster sprinkled fairy dust all over organic chemistry...what it would do..is what we see it doing - because that's the nature of those chemicals...they have specific activities.
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