There Is No Sin!

[Mister Agenda]

So according to what you have written here, morality of some sort is not temporary, has nothing to do with evolution, is not an accident or purely convenient, and yet is relative - since one is better than another - as if there is an ultimate morality in any given situation - or at least the best one, which in this case is yours over mine, because according to your standard I am WRONG.

Lots of things go on after we die, the society we live in is one of them, unless things have gone horribly, horribly wrong. Surely you are aware of this? There's a point beyond which playing stupid is no different from being stupid. That doesn't mean that morality and society are not temporary, when all the people are gone, their morality and society will be gone as well.

Just as there's more than one way to skin a cat, there may be multiple equally moral actions in a given situation, but in the entire range of available actions, some are going to be more or less moral than others.

According to my moral standard, your statements show you to be more interested in trying to score a 'gotcha' than have a meaningful dialogue, but it's not like I had high expectations.

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Take a breath.......take a breath..are you asking these questions because you're drawing a complete blank, personally?

Is there a complete blank of 'righteousness' in evolution or not?

According to you there are social 'sensibilities' grown from circumstance and human interventions - a product of humans and nature, or even an inherent but very subtle and unspoken righteousness in the whole scheme of things.

Again, the theory of evolution describes how species got to be the way they are. We evolved to be humans, and what is moral for us depends on our nature as human beings. That is unavoidable. We are social and capable of speech, reason, tool use, and culture. We depend on each other for survival. Our moral sentiments are part of what make our cooperative societies possible, and reasoning is how we figure out better ways of cooperating and living together. Morality derives from the situation we find ourselves in, trying to figure out how to have better lives for ourselves and our loved ones, while those lives last. How could we be what we are and not have concepts about what are good things to do and what are bad things to do? Even social apes and monkeys show evidence of moral sentiments, demonstrating empathy, comforting hurt or sick or sad companions; sharing food, and ostracizing or ganging up on those who are disruptive to the integrity of the group. Our moral sentiments plus our ability to reason and transmit culture make us moral agents in a way that no other species can be, able to consider the moral consequences of our actions, understand how they may effect others and ourselves, and grasp both the emotional and intellectual aspects involved.