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What's the point of philosophy any more?
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more?
(March 26, 2018 at 8:21 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Again, philosophy is best when it is devoted to exploring the results of various definitions. It is when it becomes dogmatic (like Scholaticism) that it becomes dangerous. If it doesn't learn to eliminate bad ideas (and the fact that Aristotle still has followers is a proof that it doesn't), then it will become less and less relevant over time.

Anything is bad when it becomes dogmatic. That doesn't reflect poorly on the field itself.

There are dumbasses out there who dogmatically cling to the Ptolemaic model of the universe. That doesn't make astrophysics bad.

The essence of philosophy is to scrutinize ideas for their viability-- to question everything-- that's about as anti-dogmatic as it gets. As a field, philosophy doesn't have a problem with dogmatists. I have met philosophy professors from all over-- not one single dogmatist yet. If you count armchair philosophers on the internet as being representative of philosophy, you also have to count flat earthers as cosmologists. Let's not go down that road.

Socrates noticed that many Athenian politicians and soothsayers didn't gave genuine knowledge, but, still, they convinced many others that they did. When he questioned them to get at the foundations of their wisdom, he found that there was none there. He found that people's opinions on a given matter often prevailed and the truth of the matter was ignored. So he questioned people and coaxed them to present something demonstrable. Sound familiar? The Socratic spirit is alive and well in the sciences today. A chemist doesn't declare the truth of atomic properties by fiat, her assertions do not depend upon her authority. Even a solid theory such as relativity is examined again and again for possible oversights. So it is with philosophy. Any philosopher who studies Aristotle but does not subject his truth claims to the thumbscrews of skepticism is not a philosopher. (Just a fan.)

Philosophers ask important questions about justice and ethics. You have benefitted from this, whether you would admit it or not. Do you think we've solved all the problems of human justice? If not, then philosophers still have an important place in our society. Here is a link to a Wikipedia article on an important piece of philosophy. I dare you to call it speculation. Just remember that this particular work was controversial in its day, and needed to be argued for. People weren't sure of its validity. Do you think we've reached a point in human understanding where we no longer need to question our own assumptions? Hundreds of millions die of starvation in this world, yet other well-fed people elsewhere in the world are never educated their entire lives and do nothing but toil away in factories. Do you think we've figured out justice?

Do you think we have figured everything out, so that we have no underlying assumptions that need to be challenged? If so, then (by all means) let's get rid of philosophy. You say that dogmatic Aristotelians is why we need less philosophy. I say it's why we need more.
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RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Sal - March 20, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 4:36 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by tjakey - March 20, 2018 at 9:40 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Silver - March 20, 2018 at 12:05 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 12:16 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Brian37 - March 20, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by bennyboy - March 22, 2018 at 12:30 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by bennyboy - March 24, 2018 at 10:31 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Angrboda - March 25, 2018 at 12:52 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by bennyboy - March 28, 2018 at 10:24 am
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by Shell B - March 25, 2018 at 5:05 pm
RE: What's the point of philosophy any more? - by vulcanlogician - March 27, 2018 at 12:08 am

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