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The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 4:57 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: If it's sufficient; there won't be a "but with".
Ok so what happens if people read Quran heedlessly and don't reflect?
Because part of it's paradigm is that reflection is required for guidance.
So it is sufficient to guide us or are we required to reflect and use our minds?
So by your definition of sufficient, "but you need to use your mind and reflect" would undermine it.
Ok suppose it is not sufficient, the issue God is sufficient as a Guide.
He is the reliable support. In the past, scriptures along with Ahlulbayts like the family of Abraham was always the way, but from some reason, Mohammad's family you think is undermining revelation, when rather, it's the way God makes sure revelation to be followed not according to whim but insight.

(March 28, 2018 at 5:07 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:
(March 28, 2018 at 5:01 pm)Khemikal Wrote: It amazes me that people are still bickering over which prince should have succeeded the magic man in a kingdom that no longer exists.

I don't give a shit.

It's not even a thing but if you believe in the Hadith.
Hundreds of Hadiths mention the case, and that what creates the sects: two masses of Muslims, who -just like MK- believe in the following:


Quote:MysticKnight

Quran is enough, it's sufficient, but with knowledge. And you and I can't be the center of attention for humans regarding it's knowledge if we have all it's knowledge, because, we have no proof we have it's knowledge.

"The But With" is the Hadith books that define the two sects.
Open the Quran alone; and you won't find a word about the "but with".

Tell me can a person just read Quran and not know Arabic. So what happens then?

It in fact emphasizes so many people will remain utterly blind to it's clear proofs and won't hear any of it's wisdom. And you witness this is the state of humans over all.
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The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 12:17 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by drfuzzy - March 28, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Silver - March 28, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by brewer - March 28, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 28, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by The Valkyrie - March 28, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Chad32 - March 28, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Aegon - March 28, 2018 at 2:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Antares - March 28, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:00 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:34 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:05 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 4:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 5:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 5:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:28 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 6:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 6:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:25 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:09 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 6:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 6:44 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:19 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:21 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 6:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 6:33 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:52 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:09 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:47 pm
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 8:49 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 11:54 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 29, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 9:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:01 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 8:51 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:06 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Silver - March 28, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:53 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 9:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:08 pm
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:10 pm
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:37 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 29, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 29, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 10:53 pm
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RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 28, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 29, 2018 at 12:05 am
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