(March 28, 2018 at 7:46 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: Disbeliever from Islamic standpoint is one who is doomed to hell forever if he dies in that state.
But disbelief in what? Some people like to put "when the message of Islam is presented to them and they reject", but that to me is silly.
There is many verses that show the context is when the message and proofs have been understood and people have sight of them but turn away.
Of course the true message of Islam would have proofs offered that cannot be rejected.
But in the dark times, where is Islamic message presented properly and what proofs are presented to the extent it leaves no one doubting?
I refuse to call anyone disbeliever for good reasons.
MK being condemned to a fictional hell that does not exist, is not a patent owned by Muslims. Christians threaten us with their fictional hell too. It is nonsense no matter who threatens us.
I am an atheist, if you choose to call me a "disbeliever" I am fine with that too. If you want to fool yourself that it is a slur, or that the label is something requiring you to take "pity" on me, forget it.
I am not worried one bit about what my life will be like 5 billion years from now. YOU however, SHOULD worry about wasting your limited time while you are alive on the claims of antiquity.
Ok you won't call me a "disbeliever" fine. I' will say it for you. "I am a disbeliever".
Looky that, I am still here, and so are you.
MK you wont get cooties if you figure out you got it wrong.