The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.

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Hey; it might not work with you but it works on others. There is a huge wing in the Muslim world now -both Sunni and Shiite- that "never calls non-believers with what they are: non-believers" because they might "get them angry", or "fail to convert them".

So it might work on others.

If you call me a non-believer, or atheist, that is my position, so why would it offend me? If you say it like a slur, as some Christians do as well, sure, it offends me too. Not because I haven't heard ignorant theists try to make me look bad, but it offends me because their logic sucks.

I've been an atheist since 01. If I had a nickle for every theist, you pick the label, that looked at me like I was a piece of scum, I would make Bill Gates look like a street wino.

If a Christian or Muslim or Jew wants to call me a "Non believer" wants to call me that they can. But if they think it is a word to slur me, or if not that, a word to take "pity" on me, your right, neither will work, because to us, it isn't about anything but evidence.

I don't care if you call me an atheist or non believer. That is what I am. I do care if someone uses that word as if I should be ashamed of it. Or use it like I am a lost puppy for them to save.

Non-Muslims are not subject to Islamic sentences; that kind of division creates a crack as I believe between the two sides: forgetting the verses that state a different approach towards non-believers who don't fight Muslims; like this verse:

Sura 60, The Quran:
( 7 )   Perhaps Allah will put, between you and those to whom you have been enemies among them, affection. And Allah is competent, and Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
( 8 )   Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
( 9 )   Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.

So what you're seeing is the same that happens against black people in a white society, or immigrants in a new society. The Quran orders with the above; so if people go against it, it is something else that make them go against it.

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Hey; it might not work with you but it works on others. There is a huge wing in the Muslim world now -both Sunni and Shiite- that "never calls non-believers with what they are: non-believers" because they might "get them angry", or "fail to convert them".

That seems silly, though it does explain the deeply confused look on some peoples faces when they implored me to not do x in the name of god.  

So it might work on others.

Our society also produces feckless weaklings who lack the unfailing clarity of purpose behind these steely grays...obviously I don't come from that caste.  How could I explain to Mystic, within your shared ideology, who he;s talking to?  I'm seeking your expertise in this matter so that he and I can finally reach a mutual understanding even though we can never reach agreement.  

Suggest-a-sura?

Actually; I think I made a huge mistake.
Me and him don't share the same faith.