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The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son.
(March 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: There is another viewpoint. It's one where neither Abraham sought to kill his son literally neither did God order him to. 

What I wanted to show in all this, is don't get tunneled vision when approaching a verse.



UGGGGGGG!

No MK, I get the same argument from Christians on this same story. 

No sorry, but the further back in time you go the more literally humans took the words. BACK THEN, most people literally believed in that mythology as if it were not mythology, but a factual historical event.

Again, the reason the story exists at all isn't because a God exists, or that Abraham or Issac did for that matter.

The reason any "sacrifice" motif existed back then, IN ALL OF ANTIQUITY, WORLD WIDE, was because humans lived under local tribal royalty and BACK THEN your duty was to that local ruling family. If your king demanded you did something, YOU DID IT or risk being cast out, or death.

Even with the South American ancient Mayans, there was this religious belief of the "magic of blood" and even they would sacrifice their own to their gods.

BACK THEN most Christians and Muslims and even Jews, saw "sacrifice" as a good thing, even if it meant a a member of the tribe died for the "greater good".

But I am impressed, you are doing the very back pedaling from literal word to metaphorical, which is a far better position to be than literal. 

If you literally believed that Abraham literally would have killed his own kid, I'd worry about you doing that to a real human. It is fiction, and I hope you come to see that. But, at least you are to the point of not taking that story literally.
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The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 12:17 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by drfuzzy - March 28, 2018 at 12:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Foxaèr - March 28, 2018 at 12:33 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by brewer - March 28, 2018 at 3:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 3:24 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 28, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by The Valkyrie - March 28, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:15 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Chad32 - March 28, 2018 at 1:05 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 1:06 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 1:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 2:48 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:27 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 4:25 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Aegon - March 28, 2018 at 2:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Antares - March 28, 2018 at 3:13 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 3:17 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 3:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:00 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 4:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:34 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 4:46 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:05 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 4:27 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:31 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 4:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 5:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:45 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:14 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 5:41 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 4:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 4:41 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 4:43 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 5:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 5:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:04 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:12 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 5:19 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:28 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:42 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 5:47 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 5:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 6:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 6:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:25 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:09 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 5:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:01 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 6:04 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 6:25 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 6:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 6:44 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:19 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 6:21 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 6:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:24 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 6:33 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:49 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Edwardo Piet - March 28, 2018 at 6:50 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 7:14 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:19 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 7:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:52 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:12 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 6:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:11 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:18 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:30 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 7:41 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 7:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 8:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:27 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:46 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:09 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:53 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 7:54 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 8:22 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 8:35 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:47 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:39 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 8:49 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:57 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 11:54 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 29, 2018 at 2:38 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by LadyForCamus - March 28, 2018 at 9:55 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:01 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 10:09 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 8:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 8:51 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:06 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Foxaèr - March 28, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 8:58 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:07 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 9:13 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 9:28 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:29 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:20 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 9:26 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:30 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 9:49 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:38 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by MysticKnight - March 28, 2018 at 9:40 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 9:53 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 9:51 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 9:54 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Brian37 - March 28, 2018 at 9:56 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:08 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:03 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:10 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:17 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 28, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 28, 2018 at 10:37 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by WinterHold - March 29, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by chimp3 - March 29, 2018 at 6:01 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by Minimalist - March 28, 2018 at 10:53 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 28, 2018 at 11:36 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 28, 2018 at 11:52 pm
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 29, 2018 at 12:05 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by robvalue - March 29, 2018 at 11:07 am
RE: The Abrahamic sacrifice of his son. - by vorlon13 - March 29, 2018 at 10:29 pm

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