Pope says in interview that there is no hell.

[Jehanne]

Francis talks out of "both ends"; it's a way to placate liberals and conservatives, in order to maximize revenue and influence.  His modality is the classic Marxian dialectic (or, "diuretic", depending on one's POV!)

Which isn't such a bad thing in my opinion.

Not to Us, but for the naive believers, they are being misled and deceived out of their hard-earned monies.